Reply With Quotestewart. how many weeks is it running for, l think i taped it last thursday. cheers,
Scottish televison has just started a documentary series called The Football Years, narrated by Peter Capaldi
It picks a good yr for Scotand and looks at it. Last week was 1967 and it talked of Scotland beating England 3-2, Celtic winning The European Cup, Rangers reaching the Cup Winners Cup final and Kilmarnock reaching The Fairs Cup Semi-Final. There were contributions from Scotland Manager Bobby Brown, Bobby Lennox, Billy McNeill, Archie McPherson, Sandy Jardine, Tommy Gemmell and John Grieg.
This week is 2003, but the one I'm looking forward to is next week and 1979 when Aberdeen broke the old firm deadlock and won the Scottish Premier League and with Dundee United became The New Firm. Sir Alex Fergurson, Jim McLean and Hamish Macalpine are among those taking part. I'm not sure how to put links on this web page, but know there is a webpage with a video trailer of the series.
Stuart. ps, was able to put link on thread, but below is the website I was talking about. Just write in The Football Years Stv and it will come up
The Football Years to revisit Scottish football's greatest seasons ...
4 Jan 2010 ... New STV programme takes a look back at six of Scottish football's finest years with a blend of rare footage and interviews from the game's ...
434k - 62 sec @ 56k sport.stv.tv/football/147791-the-football-years-to-revi... sport.stv.tv/football/147791-the-football-years-to-revisit-scottish-footballs-greatest-seasons/
stewart. how many weeks is it running for, l think i taped it last thursday. cheers,
Sounds fun...but not as much fun as Scotland versus Peru and Iran in '78, Willie Johnson and Ally McLeod etc etc....(btw, I'm just enjoying a re-run of the recent Wales 3-0 Scotland right now)
Six weeks I think
While Iran was a bad result, Peru at the time were regarded as the 3rd best team in South America and drew 0-0 with Holland in the same group. Ally Mcleod's record up and till the World Cup was actually quite good, back to back wins against England if I remember correctly. The one thing he did I didn't like was he didn't pick Eddie Gray, because having just come back from serious injury he wanted to be fit for Leeds at the start of the following season, after saying he didn't want to play for Scotland during a summer tour of Argentina. Ally replaced Gray with Willie Johnson.
Having said that, I wonder if Dave Mackay might have been tatically a better choice of Manager in 78, having led Derby to the First Division Title a few yrs before. Ally stayed loyal to Bruce Rioch and Don Masson, who were brilliant in the pre-qualifiers, but went of the boil. Graham Souness was brought in and played great in the 3-2 win over Holland. I thought Scotland's greatest performance came in the 74 World Cup when they out played Brazil in the second half, in a game which ended 0-0. Peter Lorimer was unlucky not to score a hatrick with his free-kicks.
I like to see all the British Countries, including the Republic of Ireland, doing well in World Cups and European Championships. I don't take any pleasure as a Scot in seeing England doing badly.
Thanks for the information Stuart - and I agree wholeheartedly about the desire for all British teams to do well. I consider myself British although born in Scotland, and I have been to Wembley to cheer on England. Such a shame so many small minds get pleasure out of cheap remarks!!!
name='David Challinor']Sounds fun...but not as much fun as Scotland versus Peru and Iran in '78, Willie Johnson and Ally McLeod etc etc....(btw, I'm just enjoying a re-run of the recent Wales 3-0 Scotland right now)
is it not better to qualify for the world cup finals and have one bad result (iran) than fail to reach the finals at all like the other home nations in 78?
David Harvey who was Scotlands GK FOR THE 1974 Wc recently suffered a Heart Attack i believe he is now on the Mend, which is Good to hear as he is my all time Goalkeeping idol along with Gordon Banks
Gwt well soon Big Dave
btw Stastically Harvey is Scotlands greatest keeper since the War played 16 times
(god only knws why he only played 16 times ) and was only beaten once in the 74 wc, v Yugoslavia , and was also voted this best keeper of that tournement as well
http://www.leedsunitedworld.co.uk/in...showtopic=2806
name='loudonsmum']is it not better to qualify for the world cup finals and have one bad result (iran) than fail to reach the finals at all like the other home nations in 78?
A fact that is often conveniently overlooked.
David Harvey I think is unfairly overlooked when thinking about great Scottish goal keepers, IMO he belongs in the same company or even in some cases even better than Jim Leighton, Andy Goram, Bill Brown and Craig Gordon. I sometimes watch the Scotland Brazil 1974 game and he was terrific and if memory serves me right was at the time compared to Peter Shilton and Pat Jennings.
Another thing that annoys me is when certain people have a go at the fact English Bob Wilson played for Scotland, as if to say he wasn't proud to play for his adopted Country. Beside the fact I think he was proud to play for Scotland, it tends to be overlooked Harvey and Goram were born in England, but that didn't stop them from becoming Scottish greats
Don Revie long after he left Leed's came to believe his side would have been even more successful if he'd promoted Harvey a couple of yrs earlier to the first-team than he actually did
It was interesting to hear that Alec Fergurson and Jim McLean would forever phone each other to work out ways to topple the Old Firm Celtic and Rangers. They both realised they needed each other in order to pull it off.
The doc also suggested the violence between Celtic and Rangers after the 79 cup final was partly due to the supporters unable to cope with Aberdeen and Dundee United challenging them for the top honours.
It also made the point as was the case with Man Utd, Fergie got of to a slow start at Aberdeen, getting up the noses of the players that were already there, including Willie Miller, who went on to be the clubs greatest ever Captain
This week was 1971=72, concentrating in the main Rangers between The Ibrox disaster and their European Cup Winners Cup triumph. Mind you Partick Thistle's, Alan Rough in goal, 4-1 victory in the League Cup Final over Celtic was discussed
I wonder if anyone else remembers what happened on this day in 1967?
BBC ON THIS DAY | 25 | 1967: Celtic win European Cup
I think Celtic were competing with the new firm much more than Rangers. Tbh I don't think Dundee Utd and Aberdeen were factors.The trouble was sparked by (along with alcohol) Celtic fans coming on the field and baiting the disappointed Rangers fans! They responded and we had trouble!Trouble at games was just a phase that lasted for a certain time in our history in Britain (elsewhere too), and I also feel seating at games has (been a big factor in stopping it!As a Rangers man I can say we've had our fair share of football hooligans, but that social trend is almost totally gone, and I feel the only time it resurfaces is when Police (in Europe especially) over-react (along with poor organisation, as in Manchester). I have to be honest and say when I see British football fans in Europe being attacked by Police and taking a beating it does negate the feelings I 'should' have when the shoe is on the other foot - same thing with Political demos!Worse offenders I've seen are the Spanish Police ABSOLUTE ANIMALS (generally speaking)! I've seen Spanish Police chase away film crews then herd Rangers fans into corners and wade in with batons (ladies and elderly getting belted) and before letting them go they search for cameras etc and confiscate them... When I think of the money Brits spend on holidays in countries like that my answer is to holiday in Britain!Incidentally the best Policing is done in Germany and the Scandinavian countries, and most of the reason for that is they know how to organise events and treat people!Originally Posted by stuart.scot
Why is it the Scots always want England to lose, yet the English always want Scotland to do well. Other than when playing England, of course?
Chip on their shoulder?
To be fair if you read some of the above posts from Scottish contributors you'll find that's not actually the case, although it is regrettably seen by a significant proportion of Scots as being traitorous for a Scot to ever support England in ANY sporting event. But that element of Scots do not represent all Scottish feeling: I do remember the great Frank McLintock berating a Scottish late night caller to a World Cup panel he was sitting on for being pigheadedly anti-English to an embarrassing degree. Frank verbally demolished this nutter without diluting his own (rightful) pride in being Scottish. It's just peevish small mindedness but I have to admit it cuts both ways. I have a cousin whom I love dearly (like me he is English) but to my annoyance and puzzlement he takes much greater delight in Scotland losing than in England winning. The line he perpetually takes is: "When we rise to the occasion we're labelled arrogant, but when the jocks do that they call it pride!" I've given up trying to reason with him these days tbh
However I have often raised the point about 1974 and 1978 with the observation "At least the Scots qualified, unlike us!" but he insists it was 1978 Scottish premature smug triumphalism which justified the subsequent English mockery.
A Scottish friend of mine did express surprise that the English weren't more insufferable after winning the Rugby World Cup some years ago. I think the media have a lot to answer for in stoking up English supposed "expectations" and the subsequent resentment of the blanket coverage and perceived English cockiness etc by some Scots (and Welsh). The irony is that most pragmatic English sports fans outside of the media don't actually expect us to win these things anyway.
1980, not 1979. And the violence was due to a--booze and b--hatred.The doc also suggested the violence between Celtic and Rangers after the 79 cup final was partly due to the supporters unable to cope with Aberdeen and Dundee United challenging them for the top honours.
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