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    The Times

    Kevin Maher:



    The romantic relationship between an older woman and a younger man, as Iris Robinson has doubtless discovered, remains something of a cultural hot potato.



    From classics such as THE GRADUATE to trifling Eighties sex comedies such as CLASS (vampy Jacqueline Bisset seduces guileless Andrew McCarthy) through to the recent Cate Blanchett thriller NOTES ON A SCANDAL, there is an assumption that this particular archetype is fundamentally deviant.



    Occasionally, however, the subject is tackled in an adult way. The heartfelt 2002 New York comedy TADPOLE thrusts a 15-year-old boy called Oscar (Aaron Stanford) into the arms of a 53-year-old called Eve (Sigourney Weaver). Eve is also Oscar's stepmother, yet the movie never once milks the relationship for Oedipal kicks.



    Instead, through patient encounters in which the precociously intelligent Oscar engages Eve with conversations on the significance of the human heart, their courtship is depicted as something genteel and elegant - so elegant that Eve is unaware of its primal undercurrent until she succumbs to a single powerful and passionate embrace.



    Better still, in a throwaway subplot, the movie allows Oscar a one-night stand with Eve's 44-year-old best friend. This relationship, too, is depicted as mostly unremarkable. Thus, when Oscar finally begins to nurture a relationship with a teenage student, it is not because she is the "appropriate" age but because she is simply available. Which makes TADPOLE a mature film indeed.



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    Here's to you....



    The Simon and Garfunkel song, MRS ROBINSON, has become the subject of an internet campaign to push it to No. 1 as a result of the affair of Iris Robinson, the wife of Peter Robinson who has stepped down as the Northern Ireland First Minister.



    A group on facebook promoting the campaign has 13,000 members.

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    name='Maurice']The Times

    Kevin Maher:



    The romantic relationship between an older woman and a younger man, as Iris Robinson has doubtless discovered, remains something of a cultural hot potato.



    From classics such as THE GRADUATE to trifling Eighties sex comedies such as CLASS (vampy Jacqueline Bisset seduces guileless Andrew McCarthy) through to the recent Cate Blanchett thriller NOTES ON A SCANDAL, there is an assumption that this particular archetype is fundamentally deviant.



    Occasionally, however, the subject is tackled in an adult way. The heartfelt 2002 New York comedy TADPOLE thrusts a 15-year-old boy called Oscar (Aaron Stanford) into the arms of a 53-year-old called Eve (Sigourney Weaver). Eve is also Oscar's stepmother, yet the movie never once milks the relationship for Oedipal kicks.


    I'm sorry this is b******* It's still sex between an adult and an underage child of 15, no matter how "heartfelt" or "adult" and still pervy and questionable as a movie subject. IMO (I add grudgingly.)

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    A 15 year old me & an older woman....yes please! (it didn't happen). It's funny, but if you turn it around & have the woman younger than the man.... you have just about every film ever made!

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    Top 10: Movies with Older Women & Younger Men Relationships | Twanna A. Hines @ FUNKYBROWNCHICK.com | sex. dating. relationships.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB7BwCCRnK0"]YouTube- Mrs. Robinson Affair Spoils Ireland Politics[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubcyn0_5GNc"]YouTube- Mrs Robinson - Simon & Garfunkel tribute (cover)[/ame]

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    name='Alan']A 15 year old me & an older woman....yes please! (it didn't happen).


    LOL In America, you always hear about those twenty- or thirty-something, hot female teachers having sex with their teenage boy students. I would have killed for that kind of special attention at that age LOL



    "The Graduate" is pretty great. "Plastics."

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    I always assumed she was older........ Same in Man at the Top and This Sporting Life wasn't it?




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    I recall that Anna Neagle starred opposite one or two younger male leads? Frankie Vaughn being one.

    All these news stories are about 'attractive' women! None that I read about are 15 stones



    I do recall at Primary school (a long time ago) a young 20 something teacher sat upon the old front wooden desk to read a story

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    name='Alan']A 15 year old me & an older woman....yes please! (it didn't happen). It's funny, but if you turn it around & have the woman younger than the man.... you have just about every film ever made!


    You really fanced 53 year old women when you were 15 did you? I suspect you were in the minority Alan - not many boys fancy their granny's friends as far as I'm aware.

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    I adore older women - but sadly I'm no longer a younger man

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    name='SirOllyBolly']I adore older women - but sadly I'm no longer a younger man


    ... me too!

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    This was part of the plot in the Lon Chaney/ Lupe Velez classic, WHERE EAST IS EAST. The "Chinese" vamp or Femme Fatal in the film was even more "interesting" in real life. She achieved real fame by taking her former husband, boxer Jack Dempsy, to the cleaners. Given the choice myself, I'd have picked her over rather silly Lupe (Loopy??) Velez. She fair sizzles after 80 years.



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    Of course all those Mae West movies had an older woman with a younger man, but I guess they didn't make an issue of it. But it really became obvious and ridiculous when she made Sextette.

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    There's an older woman/younger man pairing in the novel The Prisoner of Zenda, but it's never depicted that way in the films. In the book, it's clear Duke Michael can't be any more than 27 (he's younger than the Rudolfs, who are about 29), while Antoinette de Mauban is described as "perhaps a year or 2 past 30" in a way that makes one suspect she's more like 40. But in the films, he's depicted as older.

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    You should all watch Private Lessons with Sylvia Kristel - you'd all wish you were 15 again!







    (Great soundtrack by Air Supply too.)

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    I will be pleased if there is life after death. I will be even more pleased if there is sex in that place. But best of all will be if I'm allowed access to youthful Edna Purviance, Myrna Loy, and Jesse Matthews (amongst others). Then, my past youthful disappointment of no love from an older woman will be cancelled out.



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    Me, Jan Francis and some Nutella.



    Did I say that out loud? Oops.

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    Harold and Maude is one of my favourite films!

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    Don't forget "Notes on a scandal" (2006) with Cate Blanchett being a teacher who has an affair with a minor.

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