Trouble is, they said that last time and the time before that, in fact they've been saying that since 1990.name='Steve Crook' date='27 June 2010 - 05:04 PM' timestamp='1277654655' post='445068']
Ah well, they can always try again next time
Steve
The sad thing is that I do not even feel deflated like before, I just feel really ANGRY. Golden generation of footballers ? My A***
Do they ever? They think that they have an innate right to win any such competition just because they invented the bloody game. They are encouraged in this belief by the newspapers and the fans who stir each other up to fever pitch.name='Mr Sloane' date='27 June 2010 - 05:06 PM' timestamp='1277654760' post='445070']
The problem was they did n't try this time
Steve
Alan Shearer summed it up for me. Gerrard on the left is just an average player (his cross for the goal was one of the few times he was on the right), 442 is a tad outdated now and opponents just flood the midfield and bringing on the non-goalscorer Heskey to change things flew in the face of common-sense. Capello's stubbornness is maybe a virtue but on this occasion has proved his undoing.
So this was a game of football "at the highest level"? Once again hype triumphs over the game itself, while all pundits can do is despair and apportion blame. England always needs it's immediate knee-jerk blaming of course, but it's never happier than when there's an injustice or a foreigner involved in their defeat - little of which will take into account the clear fact that England were outplayed by a more cohesive, better-skilled German team.
And as for technology being used to settle events like the disallowed goal, well I happen to think Sepp Blatter's right in his thought that it should take into account the global nature of the game - this match was no more important than say, an Under 12's Cup final to the players in the under 12 teams...
Just my view of course
name='paul kersey' date='27 June 2010 - 05:12 PM' timestamp='1277655122' post='445073']
Trouble is, they said that last time and the time before that, in fact they've been saying that since 1990.
The sad thing is that I do not even feel deflated like before, I just feel really ANGRY. Golden generation of footballers ? My A***
Completly agree with everything you say Paul, and touching on a point Steve made; I`ve just said to my wife that after a couple of days; we will get the same old faces in the papers getting paid £££££s to come out with the same old rhetoric about how they`ve let the fans down; and how we`re gonna make it up to them by winning the Euro championships in 2012 and yada, yada, yada......
By the time I have written this,Capello might start to put pen to paper - or the FA putting
pen to paper - but personally,I don't think he should go. There is too much of managers and
teams parting company after a few dismal games. I think he should stay at least until the
next World Cup (that is if we get there). His passion was there,unfortunately the team
wouldn't know what is the first letter so as they could look "passion" up in the dictionary.
That is opinion of someone who knows little about football,and I can understand if someone
tells me to mind my own business.
Ta Ta
Marky B
name='Mervyn' date='27 June 2010 - 05:33 PM' timestamp='1277656436' post='445084']
And as for technology being used to settle events like the disallowed goal, well I happen to think Sepp Blatter's right in his thought that it should take into account the global nature of the game - this match was no more important than say, an Under 12's Cup final to the players in the under 12 teams...
Just my view of course
Rugby Union and League are global sports and they use tv technology to a far greater level than just touch line queries. It works excellently for them so it would work for football equally well.
name='Brigger' date='27 June 2010 - 06:06 PM' timestamp='1277658383' post='445092']
Completly agree with everything you say Paul, and touching on a point Steve made; I`ve just said to my wife that after a couple of days; we will get the same old faces in the papers getting paid £££££s to come out with the same old rhetoric about how they`ve let the fans down; and how we`re gonna make it up to them by winning the Euro championships in 2012 and yada, yada, yada......
Well personally I just look forward to the next wedding in OK magazine, seeing all the photographs of their wives and girlfriends carrying zillions of bags from thier latest shopping sprees, hearing our footballers calling thier new borns ridiiculous names and most importantly hearing about them breaking the local speed barrier in thier latest motor and getting off with it all scott free.
Shame they couldn`t be bothered to win a game of football for all those who pay for most of it though.
xx
name='batman' date='27 June 2010 - 05:05 PM' timestamp='1277654714' post='445069']
Germany had more skill, better movement, more brains and played as a team!
Just as I expected.........England were never good enough from the start'(Of the campaign) they just havent got the players' The worst performer was Mr Rooney' he couldnt put 2 passes together...
He should never have the Privilege of Wearing an England shirt again IMHO
At least Argentina 'Brazil and Holland are still in there. You can always rely on the south Americans and dutch to see some football as it should be Played' skill and Class.
Good luck to Germany too World Class Performance.........
As for England's Disallowed goal.....It clearly was a Goal' it wouldn't have changed the result in my View.
FIFA need to look at The Technology Available....the referees decision should have been overruled during Half Time...
name='Steve Crook' date='27 June 2010 - 04:20 PM' timestamp='1277652000' post='445058']
Is there some sort of footie match going on?
Steve
No, that was no sort of footie match. I turned off the TV and went back to the gardening when we went 4-1 down and Heskey started limbering up.
I don't know why I waste my time getting behind that bunch of clowns.It wasn't even as if the Germans played well, any sunday pub team can score on the break.
name='GoggleboxUK' date='27 June 2010 - 06:31 PM' timestamp='1277659907' post='445108']
No, that was no sort of footie match. I turned off the TV and went back to the gardening when we went $-1 down and Heskey started limbering up.
I don't know why I waste my time getting behind that bunch of clowns.It wasn't even as if the Germans played well, any sunday pub team can score on the break.
Unbelievably bad Goggs. I've never watched such an abject performance. We could have lost by seven or eight goals. Capello and the squad as a whole should hang their vastly overpaid heads in shame. And can someone please explain this - we need goals so he takes off Defoe and brings on Heskey, the forward with the worst strike rate at the tournament. We draw with USA and Algeria, narrowly beat Slovenia (the smallest nation at the World Cup) and then get humilliated by the Germans. And I thought this was the 'golden team'. Pathetic, absolutely pathetic.
name='GoggleboxUK' date='27 June 2010 - 06:31 PM' timestamp='1277659907' post='445108']
I don't know why I waste my time getting behind that bunch of clowns.It wasn't even as if the Germans played well, any sunday pub team can score on the break.
Totally Concur Gogglebox...
aside from all the Football talk' I very much Like your new Avatar....very stylish.....
name='Number Six' date='27 June 2010 - 06:39 PM' timestamp='1277660388' post='445113']
Unbelievably bad Goggs. I've never watched such an abject performance. We could have lost by seven or eight goals. Capello and the squad as a whole should hang their vastly overpaid heads in shame. And can someone please explain this - we need goals so he takes off Defoe and brings on Heskey, the forward with the worst strike rate at the tournament. We draw with USA and Algeria, narrowly beat Slovenia (the smallest nation at the World Cup) and then get humilliated by the Germans. And I thought this was the 'golden team'. Pathetic, absolutely pathetic.
Look on the bright side. At least we can blame Sepp Maier for refusing goal line technology, the ref for not spotting the ball was over the line and the linesman for not keeping up with play.
We can also thank our lucky stars the US topped our group because playing like that we'd have been beaten 4-0 by bloody Ghana!
As Public Enemy said back in 1988name='Brigger' date='27 June 2010 - 06:06 PM' timestamp='1277658383' post='445092']
Completly agree with everything you say Paul, and touching on a point Steve made; I`ve just said to my wife that after a couple of days; we will get the same old faces in the papers getting paid £££££s to come out with the same old rhetoric about how they`ve let the fans down; and how we`re gonna make it up to them by winning the Euro championships in 2012 and yada, yada, yada......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6BJ3CvPLhs
Don't Believe The Hype
Steve
name='jimw1' date='27 June 2010 - 06:48 PM' timestamp='1277660883' post='445119']
Totally Concur Gogglebox...
aside from all the Football talk' I very much Like your new Avatar....very stylish.....
Thanks Jim
You want them to win a game just for Rupert Murdoch?name='faginsgirl' date='27 June 2010 - 06:18 PM' timestamp='1277659139' post='445104']
Shame they couldn`t be bothered to win a game of football for all those who pay for most of it though.
Just a couple of points; yes, we were pretty shockingly bad, but 2-2 at half time would have produced very different team talks in both dressing rooms in a knockout situation. Capello got every substitution wrong; Milner was playing reasonably well given the lack of opportunity, Gerrard got one pass right all night. Gerrard off for Joe Cole then, and Crouch rather than Heskey on to see if he can connect to the crosses from wide.
But the main problem ??? The Bundesliga have been playing all their matches last season with that new ball; the FA rejected that idea, and so the team had a few scant weeks to get used to it. And it showed....
You wouldn't get a successful Championship golfer changing his clubs just before The Open....
That England performance was embarrassing, dismal in every game but this afternoon was something else.
I hope we are not going to harp on about 'that goal' as we could have been four down by then!
Schoolboy defending continued and the score could have been worse in the end.
Poor performances by our so called 'stars' (Rooney etc) plus bizarre team selections (Heskey, Upson etc) and the formation and tactics used by Crapello have been terrible. A combined effort of awfulness!
name='penfold' date='27 June 2010 - 07:48 PM' timestamp='1277664534' post='445155']
But the main problem ??? The Bundesliga have been playing all their matches last season with that new ball; the FA rejected that idea, and so the team had a few scant weeks to get used to it. And it showed....
Not just the FA. Nations are sponsored by a brand so Wayne Rooney (with Utd or England) can't be seen with an Adidas ball. Germany are of course sponsored by... Adidas.
name='DB7' date='27 June 2010 - 08:48 PM' timestamp='1277668113' post='445183']
Not just the FA. Nations are sponsored by a brand so Wayne Rooney (with Utd or England) can't be seen with an Adidas ball. Germany are of course sponsored by... Adidas.
True. IIRC it was used throughout the African Nations Cup earlier this year, too, not that it did them much good in the World Cup. No idea if the South American leagues used it or not, but then their star players play in Europe anyway. Tevez seems to have adapted .....
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