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    Senior Member Country: Scotland Gerald Lovell's Avatar
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    High Flight is not the way to describe TCM's recent broadcast of the 1957 Warwick Production, as it was not high definition and the panning and scanning was enough to make you fly away. However, sticking with it:

    John Payne looks disdainful of his fellow new recruits Kenneth Fortescue and Anthony Newley

    It's showtime at the end of term party and joining Barry Foster and others in the audience could be Bruce Wightman far right

    And here, it looks like Murray Melvin second row left

    Up in the tower (though not Blackpool Tower which does appear in the film), Pat Ryan is i/c radio (centre) and William Lucas i/c shouting (right)

    At a squadron dinner, Ray Milland stomps in past Paddy Smith on the left, and for once Paddy is eating the food rather than serving it up. Ernest Blythe and his chin appear in the background

    As Ernest washes his chin in his wine glass, we can now see that the Royal Navy is represented by Robert Gregory

    And we can now see the commandant is played by John Le Mesurier (and he performs it not too far away from his befuddled characterisation) and I think that's Jeff Silk in the background, just about to go behind John's nose

    Although Paddy may not be on call at this dinner, he has the chance to observe the waiter talents of Martin Lyder who's trying to keep his finger out of the soup as Kenneth Haigh joins Anthony Newley and his sprouting handlebars

    Which have sprouted considerably by the time we get to the drinks here he's ordering for the ever-aged Kynaston Reeves from the ever-dutiful Jack Dearlove

    Ray's right hand man is Leslie Phillips and on his right hand is Cadet Roy Beck

    There's lots of dubbing going on in this one. Also on, IMDb, "Andrew Keir and Duncan Lamont are often credited with being in this but are nowhere to be seen in the final print". I certainly couldn't see Duncan either, but his fellow Scot, the credited Valetta Instructor, albeit skinny, is present and correct:
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    The quality of the posts on this thread always makes me think that Britmovie should get some kind of government grant. Never mind Steve having to plead for funds, the British government should be ensuring the continuing existence of the site. The work is way beyond my ability or knowledge, but it's such a pleasure to read these posts.
    Thanks to all contributors.

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    Senior Member Country: England phil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigon Man View Post
    The Key 1958

    No screengrabs as it's from the TV, but I noted Reg Thomason Aileen Lewis Ernie Rice and John Tatum amongst the extras.
    I spotted a possible Pauline Chamberlain credit in the centre of a group of dancers in a club.

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    Additional sightings in 'Lady Godiva Rides Again' (1951) (post #2727)

    Pauline Stroud, 3rd left, features in all these captures. The model with her leg bent fowards is a 17-year-old Jean Marsh:



    I think the (young) Gloria Grahame-lookalike next to Pauline is Shirley Burniston. She might be in the next image as well.


    In the scene where Trevor Howard makes a cameo appearance, as a theatregoer, I noticed John More in the audience:




    No different to how he looked a decade later (i.e. still without the distinctive beard):



    From The Pure Hell of St. Trinian's (1960)


    Is that Muriel Greenslade approaching Pauline?:


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    Senior Member Country: Great Britain Tigon Man's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by phil View Post
    I spotted a possible Pauline Chamberlain credit in the centre of a group of dancers in a club.
    I didn't notice Pauline Phil, did you get a screengrab?
    I wonder if Gerald has watched this one and can enlighten us, he doesn't miss much.

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    Senior Member Country: Scotland Gerald Lovell's Avatar
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    I did watch The Key and got two sightings of Pauline and at least one of Pamela. Screencaps of these ladies, and others, to follow.

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    Senior Member Country: Scotland Gerald Lovell's Avatar
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    Turning The Key back from 1958 to 1941 to unlock some of the uncredited cast:

    As William Holden and Trevor Howard try to outdo each other in a gurning competition, I think it's Jack Dearlove who wanders by in the background

    Holden stomps out as Guy Standeven has gone for the pensive look

    On board Trevor's tug, the tea-serving crewman is Joe Powell and the mate is Kieron Moore. What is quite confusing is that Joe's character seems to get killed minutes later, but thereafter Joe's quite prominent in Holden's crew

    Helmsman under fire seems to be Richard Shaw under woolly hat

    Trev gets thanks from a rescued captain (who may be Andr� Mikhelson), but the frozen face on the right certainly belongs to naval rating John Tatum in the first of two mournful appearances in this film

    The sight of Tatum's face gets Trev down and he heads for the local Forces Social Centre where Ren�e Houston appears to be the cleaner (she is seen later on in a shop, maybe playing the same character) and just to our right of Trev, cavorting on the dance floor is Jack Mandeville

    As Bill joins Trev, we can see on the dance floor it's the first appearance of Pauline Chamberlain who's doing the Lambeth Walk

    The boys continue to down a few drinks (no acting needed) as John Payne now comes into view on the left, seemingly dancing with a bloke in drag

    Kieron and Bill are lodging at Noel Purcell's "Grand Hotel" (not!) and going up those rickety stairs - we get no better view of him - I'd lay odds it's Victor Harrington

    And lay odds here's Alf Mangan on the right doing his Churchill impression.

    More to follow tomorrow.
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    I have updated Pauline's CV at the IMDB for this appearance.

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    Senior Member Country: Scotland Gerald Lovell's Avatar
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    Another turn of The Key:

    Some mournful acting from Bernard Lee, Kieron Moore and perhaps John Tate as another rescued captain

    Another hop and among those doing the hop as William Holden demonstrates his two left feet is the previously-sighted Reg Thomason

    Bill thinks he sees Sophia Loren there, but he's wrong (I did think I saw her at luggage reclaim in LAX once, and I was right) and I think I see Philip Brack there (but maybe I'm wrong)

    An unusual motherly role for Aileen Lewis when the all-clear sounds. Beatrix Lehmann is the lady in the background urging her out.

    More to come later.

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    Senior Member Country: Great Britain Tigon Man's Avatar
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    Imdb accepted my entries for Reg Thomason and John Tatum for The Key, but curiously not for Aileen They wouldn't accept her entry for Carry On Up The Khyber either..
    Aileens telly appearances don't seem to be a problem, I've had recent entries for Paul Temple and Thriller accepted readily enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigon Man View Post
    Imdb accepted my entries for Reg Thomason and John Tatum for The Key, but curiously not for Aileen They wouldn't accept her entry for Carry On Up The Khyber either.
    What do you mean that they wouldn't accept them? What do they say when you try to submit them?
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0972507

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    Senior Member Country: Great Britain Tigon Man's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Crook View Post
    What do you mean that they wouldn't accept them? What do they say when you try to submit them?
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0972507

    Steve
    I normally just get the the standard line about your entry is being assessed or whatever. I've never had a reply to say that that there is a specific reason why they are not accepting an entry.
    Strange that if you update a film with three additions or more, they invariable accept only two out of the three.
    Sometimes I re submit entries, changing the character attribute slightly, but it is mighty difficult to get Imdb to accept them, I think my only success was with Aileen again and her entry for 39 Steps (1978).

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    Senior Member Country: Scotland Gerald Lovell's Avatar
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    There's another Aileen Lewis television sighting coming up soon. Meantime, the final turn of The Key:


    There's consternation over Oscar Homolka for Messrs. Lee and Holden, with Ernie Rice looking worried, and pipeless, and John Tatum, in his second role, characteristically looking bleedin' miserable. The It's Not Ned Hood gets a look in too

    As does Graham Tonbridge now


    They're all coming out of the woodwork now, as Ned Lynch, Eddie Boyce and another of the unknowns suddenly materialise

    And stomping on the woodwork of the dance floor are a line of chorus girls, with Pauline Chamberlain making her promised second appearance and I think that's Pamela Chamberlain with the longer hair on picture right of her

    More of the girls, with Gerry Judge turning up behind Pauline's head. Sadly, Pauline tells us that the years of high kicks have caught up with her as she needs to wear a leg brace nowadays

    Fortunately, you don't need to brace yourself for the sight of Tony Castleton dancing with the girls as in this slightly earlier shot he's partially cut off in the foreground as the camera is more interested in the angst of William Holden for some reason.

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    Senior Member Country: Scotland Gerald Lovell's Avatar
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    "Death of Fasching" is a particularly confusing and pointless adventure for PAUL TEMPLE with numerous unconnected scenes, both to each other and to the so-called plot overall. I suspect it was made to appease the BBC's co-production partners, set and filmed on location as it was in Munich. There are two studio-bound parties that drag on:


    At the unmasking of this one, the lady in the Marge Simpson hardo is Isa Miranda and I think the grinning devil is Ken Sedd. At the later party, he also appears, this time clean-shaven


    Also at the two parties, but clean-shaven in both, is grinning deviless Aileen Lewis. The large gentleman being helped by Bruno Dietrich and Catherine Schell is Georg Marischka.

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    Gerald, if you are in contact with Pauline, could you possibly ask her if she knows of a couple of CREDITED appearances by her sister, Pamela? I know it's a long shot but I can't update her uncredited credits because you need a couple of credited ones before IMDB will accept the uncredited ones. She has no IMDB CV at all at present which is a pity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigon Man View Post
    I normally just get the the standard line about your entry is being assessed or whatever. I've never had a reply to say that that there is a specific reason why they are not accepting an entry.
    Strange that if you update a film with three additions or more, they invariable accept only two out of the three.
    Sometimes I re submit entries, changing the character attribute slightly, but it is mighty difficult to get Imdb to accept them, I think my only success was with Aileen again and her entry for 39 Steps (1978).
    When did you submit them? It can take up to 7 working days before a submission is processed

    You will never get a reply saying that a submission has been rejected (except for a new title submission or some other specialised submissions). It's up to you to wait for the appropriate time and then to check your submission and to see if it's been accepted

    Did you provide any validation as proof?
    Have you ever made any submissions which have subsequently proved to be incorrect?

    Their seeming to accept two out of three is pure coincidence. When you make 3 submissions in a batch they are separated out into individual submissions and are handled separately.

    The only character attributes you should ever need to give is (uncredited)
    Some character descriptions may be more acceptable than others although they are fairly happy to accept any character description for an uncredited entry as long as it is descriptive of the character. For credited characters the character description should be exactly as it is given on-screen in the credits

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    Senior Member Country: Scotland Gerald Lovell's Avatar
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    In the not supposed to be sighted category:


    In the hosing sequence of The Key, look in the top left-hand corner. We do get shots from that camera angle.
    This is the scene in which Michael Caine apparently appears (but can't be seen). Not a lot of people know that.
    The contribution of Robert Rietty to the film also cannot be seen as he supplies a radio voice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cully View Post
    Gerald, if you are in contact with Pauline, could you possibly ask her if she knows of a couple of CREDITED appearances by her sister, Pamela? I know it's a long shot but I can't update her uncredited credits because you need a couple of credited ones before IMDB will accept the uncredited ones. She has no IMDB CV at all at present which is a pity...
    If people on this forum are actually in contact with one of the most popular extras we spot it seems such a waste if a proper interview with her isn't conducted. It would be smashing if someone could do this. To be honest after Scott Palmer spoke to her I thought we'd hear a lot more about her. One other point, I posted a picture of her in Bread so why hasn't that been put on her IMDB page?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonefan View Post
    One other point, I posted a picture of her in Bread so why hasn't that been put on her IMDB page?
    The IMDb will only accept pictures (photos or posters) if you can prove tha you are the copyright holder, usually the photographer.

    The only way to get photos on there is to have them on another web site and to submit them as External Links

    Steve

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    Senior Member Country: Scotland Gerald Lovell's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonefan View Post
    If people on this forum are actually in contact with one of the most popular extras we spot it seems such a waste if a proper interview with her isn't conducted. It would be smashing if someone could do this. To be honest after Scott Palmer spoke to her I thought we'd hear a lot more about her. One other point, I posted a picture of her in Bread so why hasn't that been put on her IMDB page?
    As Scott will tell you, Pauline is now quite elderly and rather infirm and unfortunately her memory about details of her film and television career is not as sharp as it used to be.

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