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    I saw this once on BBC1 about 1983.



    I think it was Italian but dubbed and possibly set in "London".



    Two rival gangs are at it hammer and tongs. The gangs include quite straight middle class middle-aged folk as well as more stereotypical street toughs.



    They are eventually brought to peace by their girlfriends getting together and instituting a sex-ban until they all come to their senses. Thus it suggests a partial basis in Aristophanes' Lysistrata.



    I remember one moment when a black gangster is told by his girl - "No more honey for you!" And he thinks about and drops his weapon and runs after her.



    Or did I dream it?

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    Lysistrata (Attic Greek: Λυσιστ?άτη, "Army-disbander") is one of the few surviving plays written by Aristophanes. Originally performed in classical Athens in 411 BC, it is a comic account of one woman's extraordinary mission to end The Peloponnesian War. Lysistrata convinces the women of Greece to withhold sexual privileges from their husbands and lovers as a means of forcing the men to negotiate peace, a strategy however that inflames the battle between the sexes.



    1968: Feminist director Mai Zetterling made a radical film Flickorna (released in English as The Girls), starring three reigning Swedish film actresses: Bibi Andersson, Harriet Andersson and Gunnel Lindblom, who were depicted playing roles in Lysistrata.



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    hope this helps


    Since it bears no relation to a gang war film set on the streets of London - then, er, no it doesn't really.



    I know Lysistrata very well - having both read it and seen it performed on stage.



    The film I'm looking for is a modern (late 60s/70s) very loose reworking, if that. It may only contain the love ban. The main cast were the men.



    Thanks for your interest, however.

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    Long shot Graeme but might it be this, so long since I saw it but going by just the Italian made, UK setting [Liverpool not London] and Gang War it was worth a heads up.



    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060977/



    The Battle of the Mods aka Crazy Baby.

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    Long shot Graeme but might it be this, so long since I saw it but going by just the Italian made, UK setting [Liverpool not London] and Gang War it was worth a heads up.



    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060977/



    The Battle of the Mods aka Crazy Baby.


    That looks like a very strange film but it's not the one.



    The one I'm after was set entirely on a studio mock up of a few Londonish back streets - most of the action took place out side.



    The lead was a middle aged Italian looking chap I took for a Marcello Mastroianni - but probably wasn't.

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    I have no idea, but if it wasn't MM it might have been another leading man Italian actor recognizable to Western audiences. Not a whole lot of those so maybe if you went through the filmography of the three or four possibilities, you might find it. Rossano Brassi? Raf Vallone?

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    I have no idea, but if it wasn't MM it might have been another leading man Italian actor recognizable to Western audiences. Not a whole lot of those so maybe if you went through the filmography of the three or four possibilities, you might find it. Rossano Brassi? Raf Vallone?


    Neither of those dudes...

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    Vittorio Gassman?

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    I think I've found it...



    Almost certainly Leo the Last (1970) by "quality" film director John Boorman! It is Marcello Mastroianni but what I took for a fake set is actually shot in London. Only Boorman could make a real location look like a bad set...



    Can anyone who has seen this confirm that the bit where the girls threaten a sex ban actually takes place to end the violence?



    Cheers



    Graeme

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    I saw that a million years ago and all i remember it sucked, probably didn't watch it all the way through.



    fr/cannes/1960-1977/video/I00004179/autour-du-film-leo-the-last.fr.html

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    I can't remember, but here are some screen shots to help you mull it over









    Porkpie as a vicar



    A friend is going to send me a copy of an avi he has of it so give me a couple of days and I will tell you, assuming no one has solved it before then.

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    None of the summaries I've read mention a sex-ban - it sounds as if he puts his daughter on the game

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    There is a stand off towards the latter part of the film involving Marcello Mastroianni and the rest of the people in the street vs The Elite hangers on like Graham Crowden & Billie Whitelaw & a pimp and his crew.







    One girl breaks off to shout something along the lines of "you wont see this honey-pot again" and one guy walks away from the house saying "I do like my honey"







    So I would say it's definately the right film, some of it is very clever but it drifts easily into pretentiousness.

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    Thanks Bruiser! That's exactly it!



    I was probably overplaying the importance of that bit in my mind because it chimed with Lysistrata.



    No real wish to see it again - but at least I know now I didn't dream it!

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