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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame Starry View Post
    They could well be wrong if items of both Storie's AND Hanratty's underwear were put in the same bag - they could easily have been cross contaminated with Storie's underwear carrying Hanratty's DNA and vice versa.

    DNA is not an exact science, as Steve has said - and DNA from certain parts of the body change to that of the donor after a transplant.
    How big was this "Bag Of Items" and why did they save them? Were they waiting for DNA sampling to be discovered. They kept nothing of Hanratty's in "The Bag" they used the handkerchief that the gun was found wrapped in. If that was contaminated by anything it could only have been Storie's or the murderers DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toscana View Post
    How big was this "Bag Of Items" and why did they save them? Were they waiting for DNA sampling to be discovered. They kept nothing of Hanratty's in "The Bag" they used the handkerchief that the gun was found wrapped in. If that was contaminated by anything it could only have been Storie's or the murderers DNA.
    London Transport employed Edwin Cooke on cleaning duties as a pick-up man, he found the gun under the back seat on the top deck of the 36A Bus at the Rye Lane depot in Peckham, he handled the handkerchief and underneath the handkerchief he found the gun and boxes of ammunition, his DNA would clearly have been left on the handkerchief, why would the gunman (whoever he was) have put the gun under the back seat on the top deck of the 36A Bus, surely he knew it would not be long before it was found, it would have been much easier for the gunman if he had disposed of the gun in a River.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy farmer View Post
    Bob Woffinden has recently recanted on that other case he's made loads of money from by writing books about it, the Bambi Murders. Woffinden now says he is convinced Jeremy Bamber DID murder his family.

    Nevertheless...... Apparently Bamber has some kind of lawful right to not only still have a campaign on his behalf, but also to speak directly for himself in the meeja;
    Mr Blunt said: �Ministers have no role to play in determining whether a conviction was unsafe and we cannot take a view when considering cases of this sort. The law is clear where there is an alleged miscarriage of justice, prisoners are entitled to access the media.�

    It's a curious wording I thought, "The law is clear where there is an alleged miscarriage of justice, prisoners are entitled to access the media.�" ..... so......... as long as *someone* thinks you are innocent, you can never be truly guilty...

    That's the sort of law we all need I think. Innocent until your mum says you're guilty....

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    An interesting article that was published in the Camden New Journal Newspaper on August 25th 2011.



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    Another oddity of the case involved Michael Gregston's Morris Minor car. The killer seemed unable to drive and had to be shown by Valerie Storie how to work the gears and pedals. He then drove off very erratically before dumping the car in London.

    Hanratty though was an experienced driver used to handling fast cars, it seems inconcievable that he would be unable to drive a humble Morris saloon.

    Peter Alphon though was a non driver.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigon Man View Post
    Another oddity of the case involved Michael Gregston's Morris Minor car. The killer seemed unable to drive and had to be shown by Valerie Storie how to work the gears and pedals. He then drove off very erratically before dumping the car in London.

    Hanratty though was an experienced driver used to handling fast cars, it seems inconcievable that he would be unable to drive a humble Morris saloon.

    Peter Alphon though was a non driver.




    John Skillett and Edward Blackhall (the passenger in Skillett's car whom Skillett was giving a lift to work) were behind or alongside the Morris Minor for about five to ten minutes in London in the early morning of August 23rd 1961 before the Morris Minor was parked by the gunman outside Redbridge Underground Station, the Morris Minor was being driven very erratically and the driver made no signals or gave any indication of his intention to change lanes, John Skillett later positively identified Hanratty as the driver of the Morris Minor at a police line up, but his passenger Edward Blackhall who had a closer view of the driver of the Morris Minor did not recognize Hanratty in a police line up and totally failed to pick him out.
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    A very interesting review from imdb from someone who had watched the Documentary Hanratty: The Whole Truth - Hanratty: The Whole Truth Reviews & Ratings - IMDb
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    Today i received a copy of a Book called (The A6 Murder - Was James Hanratty Innocent?) through the post, the Author of the Book is Norma Buddle (who features in an article on post 45 of this Thread), i bought the Book at the following site - http://www.housmans.com/books.php

    Here is the link to an interesting Thread at the Jack The Ripper Casebook website - http://forum.casebook.org/../showthread.aspx?t=6527
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    There's an interesting article in the February issue of "The Oldie" where an ex-copper who met Hanratty questions his guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narabdela View Post
    There's an interesting article in the February issue of "The Oldie" where an ex-copper who met Hanratty questions his guilt.
    Narabdela, have you got a copy of the February issue of The Oldie Magazine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy farmer View Post
    Narabdela, have you got a copy of the February issue of The Oldie Magazine.
    If you are interested in this case try; www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/James_Hanratty It has a lot of information and contacts to other sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy farmer View Post
    Narabdela, have you got a copy of the February issue of The Oldie Magazine.
    Sorry billy, I'm afraid I've binned it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toscana View Post
    If you are interested in this case try; www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/James_Hanratty It has a lot of information and contacts to other sites.
    Toscana, thanks for the link, there is a very interesting Thread about the A6 Murder on the Jack The Ripper Casebook website.

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    The latest series of Fred Dinenage: Murder Casebook (currently being shown on the Crime and Investigation channel on Sky), features an episode about the A6 Murder, the episode will be shown tonight - http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co....-episodes.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy farmer View Post
    The latest series of Fred Dinenage: Murder Casebook (currently being shown on the Crime and Investigation channel on Sky), features an episode about the A6 Murder, the episode will be shown tonight - http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co....-episodes.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIDqqxPpdqc

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