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    James Bond star Daniel Craig has declared the launch of the new Bond film Skyfall as his greatest 007 premiere yet.
    The actor, playing the spy for a third time, was the first of the stars to arrive at the Royal Albert Hall for the royal premiere.
    "It's incredible," Craig told the BBC. "This is my third premiere and this is the biggest and the best."
    Skyfall is the 23rd official Bond film and marks 50 years of the franchise.
    Large crowds of people had turned out to cheer the stars on the red carpet, which stretched along the streets around the venue in Kensington, west London.
    The Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall attended the screening on Tuesday night, along with stars Dame Judi Dench, Javier Bardem and the film's director Sam Mendes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Odeon68 View Post
    I will go and see this later this week, but to me Daniel Craig is the worst Bond by far: he looks more like an escapee from a third-generation dole-queue council-estate-----this 'council-estate' brutality seeps through his every pore, and is the antithesis of the 'suave' definition of Bond, as set out by Fleming and some of the previous actors.

    To me, Craig looks terminally, permanently embarassed and ill-at-ease in the role, --all that's really missing is the price-tag he forgot to remove from his tux [which may have been digitally removed, of course]. Graig in my view is a preening, macho-posturing cypher, the sort of 'presence' who will appeal to the easily-impressed who have never set foot on a film set, and who devour all the trash Hollywood and others foist on us.


    Brocolli and Saltzman, for all their excesses, would have chortled and scoffed at the thought of the likes of Craig in this role, and they may even summarilly dismissed anyone foolhardy enough to suggest he take a screen-test in lieu of the role
    of Bond.
    What on earth are you talking about?...... "council estate" brutality?....that's cliched nonsense. On Daniel Craig as Bond?....his acting credentials speak for themselves and on films of this scale success is measured in $, this is set to be the biggest Bond in the history of the franchise so however you look at it Craig has been a success in the role. As a detractor you are a minority opinion.......but an opinion you are entitled to....just don't expect anyone here to agree with you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odeon68 View Post
    I will go and see this later this week, but to me Daniel Craig is the worst Bond by far: he looks more like an escapee from a third-generation dole-queue council-estate-----this 'council-estate' brutality seeps through his every pore, and is the antithesis of the 'suave' definition of Bond, as set out by Fleming and some of the previous actors.

    To me, Craig looks terminally, permanently embarassed and ill-at-ease in the role, --all that's really missing is the price-tag he forgot to remove from his tux [which may have been digitally removed, of course]. Graig in my view is a preening, macho-posturing cypher, the sort of 'presence' who will appeal to the easily-impressed who have never set foot on a film set, and who devour all the trash Hollywood and others foist on us.


    Brocolli and Saltzman, for all their excesses, would have chortled and scoffed at the thought of the likes of Craig in this role, and they may even summarilly dismissed anyone foolhardy enough to suggest he take a screen-test in lieu of the role of Bond.
    The Bond of the books had a weight problem and was sent off to health farms to lose weight. He ate a lot of eggs and so would fart a lot. He chain-smoked, usually drank a bottle of champagne and a bottle of vodka daily and loved rich food. He would would be a prematurely aged, overweight man with wind who would wheeze whenever called into action. None of the screen Bond's match that description.

    Craig has, IMHO, carved his own distinctive niche as Bond. The second film was a bit dodgy but his first was fine. Looking forward to Skyfall and regret I will be busy on friday when it goes on general release.

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    Craig may not be everyone's cup of tea as Bond, but he certainly has made the role his own. He has taken the character back to the cold persona of the Connery era but has added a depth that was never there in the 'vintage' films. Craig has created a realistic person by mixing the contents of Fleming's bag of Bondian tricks with what is demanded by both modern cinema audiences and traditional Bond fans. As Windthrop said, no film Bond is exactly what Fleming envisioned (Hoagy Carmichael was his visual image of Bond) but each of them (with the possible exception of Brosnan who was Connery-lite IMHO) has given the role something different. I loved Casino Royale and I'm the only person I know who doesn't find Quantum of Solace as rubbish as most people. I am looking forward to Skyfall very much and hope that Craig sticks around for at least two more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batman View Post
    I'm the only person I know who doesn't find Quantum of Solace as rubbish as most people.

    You're not alone Bats, I like QOS also, I'd rather see loads of thrills and spills than boring love scenes, yawn yawn..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odeon68 View Post
    Graig in my view is a preening, macho-posturing cypher, the sort of 'presence' who will appeal to the easily-impressed who have never set foot on a film set, and who devour all the trash Hollywood and others foist on us.
    What has setting foot on a film set got to do with appreciating what's on the screen? Can you only understand film as a medium if you've hung out on sets?

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    I also enjoyed Quantum of Solace, it had a few shortfalls and wasn't as good as Casino Royale but it was not a bad film, it is generally perceived as being terrible but it's not terrible by a long shot.....and it did well at the box office. Anyway back to Skyfall, as you all possibly know the climax was filmed on location in the Scottish Highlands and while the cast and crew were up there the local Argyll Arms Hotel decided to lay on a Bond themed menu, here is a little taster,

    For Your Pies Only.
    On Her Majesty's Secret Sandwiches.
    Man With The Golden Haddock.
    Scaramanga Scampi
    Russian Casserole With Love
    Gold Cod Fingers
    Octosoupy
    You Only Squid Twice
    Thunder Meat Balls
    Live and Let Fry with two eggs,sausage,bacon,slice of haggis and toast
    Diet Another Day chocolate fudge cake with double 0 cream.

    You couldn't really make that up,the staff must have downed a few whiskies before compiling that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by batman View Post
    I loved Casino Royale and I'm the only person I know who doesn't find Quantum of Solace as rubbish as most people.
    You are not alone,Bats. I enjoyed Quantum of Solace too - not as good as Casino Royale,but like you say not as rubbish as some people made out. It was different and the franchise has to re-invent itself rather than stick to the old formula all the time. I too am looking forward to Skyfall. All I want to do is find out what time the film actually starts and not sit through the adverts,future features etc.
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...all-theme.html

    You have a choice, three "Hail Mary's" or listen to all of this

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    Quote Originally Posted by christoph404 View Post
    What on earth are you talking about?...... "council estate" brutality?....that's cliched nonsense. On Daniel Craig as Bond?....his acting credentials speak for themselves and on films of this scale success is measured in $, this is set to be the biggest Bond in the history of the franchise so however you look at it Craig has been a success in the role. As a detractor you are a minority opinion.......but an opinion you are entitled to....just don't expect anyone here to agree with you!
    'council estate brutality' is a term I coined myself, Windthorp--so it's not a cliche-----it may be a poor description on my part but it's MY original description, for better or worse--I'm also off to see the film today, I'm looking forwards to it even if I'm clearly no Craig fan.

    I liked the film he was in about Jewish Partisan forest fighters, but he honestly made very little impression on me in this either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christoph404 View Post
    I also enjoyed Quantum of Solace, it had a few shortfalls and wasn't as good as Casino Royale but it was not a bad film, it is generally perceived as being terrible but it's not terrible by a long shot.....and it did well at the box office.
    I have been following the Bond films since they started and Quantum of Solace was too rushed for me (all flash editing,bang but no wallop ) take away the Bond name,M and Felix and it came across as just another film like that film XX with Vin Diesel,which it should not be,However Casino Royale was much better.

    Quantum of Solace did poorly at the box office compared to Casino Royale (QoS-Gross:$575,952,505 (Worldwide) CR Gross:$594,239,066 (Worldwide) ) truth be told and given the choice I would watch Die Another Day (which is regarded by some (but not me ) as the worse Bond film ) then watch Qos again.

    Also Daniel Craig just does not fit Bond at all,just something quite wrong there which I can not put my finger on.

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    Here's an in depth review of Skyfall - no spoliers - both film critic Mark Kermode and Simon Mayo thought Skyfall is a great Bond film and also a superbly crafted movie in it's own right.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode..._Daniel_Craig/
    Kermode and Mayo's Film Review - BBC Radio 5 Live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amethyst_Isle View Post
    ... Casino Royale was much better ... Quantum of Solace did poorly at the box office compared to Casino Royale ... QoS-Gross:$575,952,505 (Worldwide) CR Gross:$594,239,066 (Worldwide) ...
    Nobody disagrees that CR is the better film, but to say that QOS did 'poorly' compared to CR is a bit harsh. With a gross of nearly $600m for both of them, the latter film took a drop of only $19m. For a film that's so 'rubbish' that's a pretty good box-office take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batman View Post
    Nobody disagrees that CR is the better film, but to say that QOS did 'poorly' compared to CR is a bit harsh. With a gross of nearly $600m for both of them, the latter film took a drop of only $19m. For a film that's so 'rubbish' that's a pretty good box-office take.
    Its amazing how the success of Bond films are perceived and measured......a film that makes $576 million is a blockbuster by any measurement, QOS was a huge box office hit there is no doubt about that, it did not get the same positive critical reception as Casino and made slightly less money...but to describe it as performing poorly in comparison to Casino Royale is grossly inaccurate given the actual facts and figures. QOS was a smash hit at the box office despite the so so reception and mixed reviews.

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    Just returned from viewing Skyfall at the luxurious giant screened Curzon Mayfair. Well its great.....I thoroughly enjoyed it, lots of surprises, its dark, its character driven.... and it looks fantastic courtesy of ace cinematographer Roger Deakins, don't want to give anything away but some of Bond's familiar iconography is re introduced in quite a clever way, Bond makes a few quips, he is reunited with his vintage Aston Martin DB5 which got a big cheer from the audience....and he makes use of the machine guns that pop out of the front side lights..fantastic. Daniel Craig really adds something to the character in this, he really did nail it as a washed up has-been super agent who struggles to get his mojo back, its a great performance, his best yet as Bond, its all very real and there were a few tears at the end......I'll give it five out of five.

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    Graeme: my point is that most folks only see the finished, glossy result of much film-making, which is clearly manipulated, manufactured and tweaked by many professionals--most people don't give a lot of thought to behind-the scenes trials and tribulations, which are often just as petty and ordinary as is working in any other field------I have met loads of people who are seduced by the glamour of Movie-making, and clearly believe that everything associated with making films is well-paid and glamorous: but then again it's all about selling dreams and fantasies. The reality behind the scenes is often very ordinary, though....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odeon68 View Post
    Graeme: my point is that most folks only see the finished, glossy result of much film-making, which is clearly manipulated, manufactured and tweaked by many professionals--most people don't give a lot of thought to behind-the scenes trials and tribulations, which are often just as petty and ordinary as is working in any other field------I have met loads of people who are seduced by the glamour of Movie-making, and clearly believe that everything associated with making films is well-paid and glamorous: but then again it's all about selling dreams and fantasies. The reality behind the scenes is often very ordinary, though....
    All of which has nothing to do with the appeal or lack of appeal of a star like Craig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batman View Post
    For a film that's so 'rubbish' that's a pretty good box-office take.
    Quote Originally Posted by christoph404 View Post
    Its amazing how the success of Bond films are perceived and measured......a film that makes $576 million is a blockbuster by any measurement, QOS was a huge box office hit there is no doubt about that, QOS was a smash hit at the box office despite the so so reception and mixed reviews.
    There has been films that have become 'blockbusters' which does not mean they are good or excellent films.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amethyst_Isle View Post
    There has been films that have become 'blockbusters' which does not mean they are good or excellent films.

    There are works of art, paintings, that sell for $100 million, I don't like them.... or understand them.... so they are rubbish....but wait....thats just my opinion not a statement of fact .....in the creative world quality is often in the eye of the beholder. Its the same with movies, whether its good or bad in terms of how you enjoy it is a matter of personal opinion, but if you are going to measure how successful it is as an artistic commercial venture then $ count and if many people vote with their $ to buy tickets that means many people do think its good. How would you be measuring good or excellent? A film is a failure if it gets bad revues, no one goes to see it, and it loses money? yes or no?...does that make it a bad or excellent film?....Im thinking "Citizen Kane"....poor revues, lost money, and no-one went to see it on its release. One of my favourite Bond films is OHMSS, it made the least money by a long shot than any of the other Bond films, its a film that divides people, you either love it or hate it. Anyway....back to Skyfall.....anyone else been to see it yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAEME View Post
    All of which has nothing to do with the appeal or lack of appeal of a star like Craig.
    I'll answer this after I see the film, and explain why I think Craig acts 'out of his depth', if indeed this is still the case: it's more balanced if I watch the actual film first. Hopefully his efforts have improved, it's difficult to see how he could actually regress from his previous films.


    I've looked at your original criticism of my post and you fail to mention Craig by name, but you conveniently bring it up now for reasons known only to yourself. I'm not a mind-reader and have to attempt to decipher your cryptic writings under the mysterious methods you choose to put forth.....it's not easy though, more clarity on your part would be appreciated by myself, and presumably others, none of us want confusing writings that strike out in random tangents [which appears to be your approach, at least within this thread: hopefully your writings are more coherent elsewhere].


    I was going to go and see the film yesterday, but something turned up that offered more attraction than seeing Craig's 'work' [no it wasn't especially interesting]

    I'll likely see it next week, though; if Craig is especially bad, I will ignore him and highlight any other qualities within this production worth seeing.
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