Reply With Quoteno2 Gloucester Mews W2, north end
no6 Kensington Gardens Square W2
no1 and 5: Harrow Road-ish?
no2 Gloucester Mews W2, north end
no6 Kensington Gardens Square W2
no1 and 5: Harrow Road-ish?
That's excellent sjhj.
Did you already know these or did you just recognise them?
re #1 & #5...I'm not sure about Harrow Rd
Here's the Gloucester Mews today link
http://goo.gl/maps/NsJ9F
& Kensington Square Gardens
http://goo.gl/maps/gBs7S
I knew them before, jotted down in notes. Gloucester Mews also appears in The London Connection and The Informers.
Regarding captures 1 and 5, srhj's assumption of "Harrow Road-ish" is correct. Virtually everything in those captures is now long gone. The tall building in the background is Capital House on Edgware Road (the one above the M&S), it looks very different now because it was completely refurbished around 1989-1990. This is how the capture five view looks today, the buildings on the left having been replaced by Paddington Green police station. In the middle ground to its right is the ABC cinema on Harrow Road, it was demolished in 1994 to be replaced by an extension to the Hilton hotel.
To actually find some buildings that are actually still standing we have to go back to the very start of this scene (edit: which I have just noticed is capture 3, above):
Bitter Harvest - Paddington Green.jpg
This is looking north along the east side of Paddington Green, and this is the same scene on StreetView.
Finally, the pub Jenny was heading to was indeed the King & Queen and was located at 67 Harrow Road.
Last edited by RobBeer; 04-09-12 at 12:39 PM.
Just noticed that capture 4 has not been directly addressed. This is again Harrow Road, as Jenny approaches the pub I refer to in my last paragraph, above.
Thanks for the feedback, Rob. Top notch.
In fact, I received from "srhj" this location query containing four screengrabs.
This was one of the "Greg challenges", so most of these locations were originally discovered by myself!
Tuesday, 26 October, 2010, 15:31
On my laptop I now have a folder called Greg challenges, and so I send a few more. No worries if you can't get them as I think location finding seems to be limitless!
Bittter Harvest (1963)
BH1 a pub called King and Queen
BH2 a square, I suspect W2 or SW7
BH3 just round the corner of BH2
BH4 a reverse shot of BH3, unfortunately at night
I already have nailed one location in Paddington here
Thursday, 28 October 2010, 11:44
... and another location mystery is solved!
In fact, I discovered the location of the square (the pictures BH2, BH3 and BH4). I need a proof for my location research for the King & Queen pub (the picture BH1)...
Yesterday at this time, I started to research the square and after 30 minutes I discovered the exact location. The square is Kensington Gardens Square in Bayswater.
Can you tell me where is the exact boundary (the name of the streets) dividing Bayswater and Paddington areas?
I think Kensington Gardens Square is in Bayswater (not Paddington).
BH2 (a square, I suspect W2 or SW7)
The picture from this scene was taken from 55 Kensington Gardens Square, Bayswater, W2 4BA.
Looking east/northeast.
(Granada Europe Hotel is at number 56 Kensington Gardens Square, Bayswater, W2 4BA).
Here is a Google Maps Street View link:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...,71.75,,1,0.44
BH3 (just round the corner of BH2)
The exact address of the house just round the corner is 54 Kensington Gardens Square, Bayswater, W2 4BA.
Looking north.
Here is a Google Maps Street View link:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...,0.004125&z=18
BH4 (a reverse shot of BH3, unfortunately at night)
In this case it's no problem for me because of the night scene...
Taken from the house just round the corner 54 Kensington Gardens Square, Bayswater, W2 4BA.
Looking south/southeast.
Here is a Google Maps Street View link:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...,0.002063&z=19
BH1 (a pub called King and Queen)
I discovered the most possible location of the pub called King & Queen (I mean if the name of the pub is genuine). I have done this research yesterday also in about 30 minutes.
Can you tell me the name of the location which you discovered in Paddington area?
Having in mind that location you discovered is in Paddington and also the location of the square, Kensington Gardens Square is in Bayswater, probably this pub is also somewhere in W2 postcode area. If this is true, here is my research...
In this area, the only pub called King & Queen listed from Historical Directory website and also from Dead Pubs website is King & Queen, 67 Harrow Road, Paddington. You have in the attachment the (1954-1956) map of King & Queen. Unfortunately, from the location of this map we can see this pub was demolished probably at the time of the construction of the Westway. I have no proof if the pub in the picture BH1 was the now demolished King & Queen pub in Paddington. Probably it needs a confirmation of an elderly person who lived in this area at time of filming!
Here are some information and links for the possible location of this pub:
Post Office London Directory, 1915. [Part 4: Trades & Professional Directory]:
http://www.historicaldirectories.org...05Atif&zoom=in
Post Office London Directory, 1915. [Part 2: Street Directory]:
http://www.historicaldirectories.org...04Btif&zoom=in
Name changes:
Post Office London Directory, 1915. = map (1954-1956) King & Queen
Green Street = North Wharf Road (part)
Albert Street = Consort Street
Victoria Street = Sovereign Street
King & Queen, 67 Harrow Road, Paddington:
http://deadpubs.co.uk/LondonPubs/Pad...ingQueen.shtml
The entire listing of the London Public Houses as recorded in the London 1944 Post Office Directory:
http://deadpubs.co.uk/LondonPubs1944/London1944K.shtml
Public Houses, Inns & Taverns of Paddington:
http://deadpubs.co.uk/LondonPubs/Paddington/index.shtml
Here is a Google Maps Street View link:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...210.13,,0,0.78
Greg Mishevski
(doing all the location work from Macedonia).
Note: In some cases the same Google Maps Street View link is not showing the same spot in Britain and Macedonia!
Last edited by SainT; 04-09-12 at 08:00 PM.
Very interesting links and info, SainT.
What's the date of the map at the bottom of your post?
Thank you very much, SwingingLondon.
If you read carefully my previous post, you can see it twice the date of the old map.
Again, the old map is from 1954-1956.
OK, got it. Thanks.Originally Posted by SainT
There's a documentary on the BBC4 archive that takes in some of these locations.
First transmitted in 1968, John Betjeman takes a journey from Marble Arch to Edgware talking about buildings of interest and reciting four specially written poems along the way.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ch_to_Edgware/
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