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    Originally posted by Diane Blackwell@May 18 2005, 12:53 PM

    Fantastic film. I work for London Underground, and it's great to see how little it (and its employees!) have changed!!
    In which case, have you seen Anthony Asquith's silent masterpiece Underground??? Not available anywhere, but does get screened at the NFT and suchlike....phenomenal film, basically a four-way romantic thriller starring Brian Aherne, as a tube-train conductor...the trains have changed since'28, but the acutely-observed behaviour of the passengers hasn't!! Fantastic use of location filming, in the tube itself, at a south-bank power station, and Chelsea Embankment...if you only ever watch one British silent, watch this one...

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    No, I've never heard of that one either! Our Museum does showings of strange films sometimes - perhaps I ought to get them to try to do a showing. Thanks for all the info - keep it coming! I just wish I'd discovered this website earlier!

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    Originally posted by penfold@May 19 2005, 08:57 PM

    In which case, have you seen Anthony Asquith's silent masterpiece Underground??? Not available anywhere, but does get screened at the NFT and suchlike....phenomenal film, basically a four-way romantic thriller starring Brian Aherne, as a tube-train conductor...the trains have changed since'28, but the acutely-observed behaviour of the passengers hasn't!! Fantastic use of location filming, in the tube itself, at a south-bank power station, and Chelsea Embankment...if you only ever watch one British silent, watch this one...
    DB, Steve, etc.



    Any more information on this one?



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    Originally posted by Gibbie@May 20 2005, 11:13 PM

    DB, Steve, etc.



    Any more information on this one?



    Penfold has revealed gold from the past.
    It's not one I've ever seen, but "Penfold" is an expert on silent films and I bow to his wisdom in this matter (and quite a few others)



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    Aw shucks...what do you want to know??? Asquith became Mr Dependable after the war...Yellow Rolls Royce, films like that; His 1945 Way to The Stars is excellent....BUT in the late 1920's he was seen - and in fact was - the main rival to that other up-and-coming young director, A.Hitchcock; he was a founder of the incredibly influential Film Society, which screened otherwise-unseen in this country films from Soviet Russia, and Germany. AA's films really manage to combine Russian Montage techniques, German expressionistic use of lighting, angles, etc, with his very English sensibility and create mainstream cinema hits - as Powell did in the 40's.

    As well as Underground, there is A Cottage on Dartmoor, also stunning, a story told in flashback about a barber obsessed with a manicurist colleague; and Shooting Stars, credited to A V Bramble, but actually Asquith's first effort; a thriller set in a poverty-row British film studio...filmed on location of course. Shooting Stars features Brian Aherne again, opposite Donald Calthrop (the blackmailer in Blackmail) as a slapstick comic having an affair with Aherne's co-star wife....another must-see for all sorts of reasons...and the bleakest ending too. There's a section on it in Matthew Sweet's Shepperton Babylon book, which tells how life imitated art for some of the people involved.

    What else....founded the first film technicians trade union, was president of it for 30+years...nickname Puffin....son of Herbert, the Prime Minister, thereby related to the Bonham Carters, making him Helena's great-uncle I believe...

    But most of all, do, do, do try and get to see the three silent films when they are shown...live is best with all silents...but don't try too hard with the fourth, Runaway Princess, too conventional, a bit duff. The other three, however, are simply sensational and are only now getting some international recognition at specialist screenings and festivals such as Pordenone. British silent film has had an awful reputation that it didn't deserve, and simply didn't reflect how good some of it could be, and the three Asquiths are at the forefront of the movement to get the british film industry of the 20's re-evaluated as one deserving of respect, and the realisation that Hitchcock did not learn his trade in a vacuum... I think the BFI are keen to release the three as a dvd set, but that may be a few years away...

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    Originally posted by penfold@May 20 2005, 11:45 PM

    Aw shucks...what do you want to know??? Asquith became Mr Dependable after the war...Yellow Rolls Royce, films like that; His 1945 Way to The Stars is excellent....BUT in the late 1920's he was seen - and in fact was - the main rival to that other up-and-coming young director, A.Hitchcock; he was a founder of the incredibly influential Film Society, which screened otherwise-unseen in this country films from Soviet Russia, and Germany. AA's films really manage to combine Russian Montage techniques, German expressionistic use of lighting, angles, etc, with his very English sensibility and create mainstream cinema hits - as Powell did in the 40's.

    As well as Underground, there is A Cottage on Dartmoor, also stunning, a story told in flashback about a barber obsessed with a manicurist colleague; and Shooting Stars, credited to A V Bramble, but actually Asquith's first effort; a thriller set in a poverty-row British film studio...filmed on location of course. Shooting Stars features Brian Aherne again, opposite Donald Calthrop (the blackmailer in Blackmail) as a slapstick comic having an affair with Aherne's co-star wife....another must-see for all sorts of reasons...and the bleakest ending too. There's a section on it in Matthew Sweet's Shepperton Babylon book, which tells how life imitated art for some of the people involved.

    What else....founded the first film technicians trade union, was president of it for 30+years...nickname Puffin....son of Herbert, the Prime Minister, thereby related to the Bonham Carters, making him Helena's great-uncle I believe...

    But most of all, do, do, do try and get to see the three silent films when they are shown...live is best with all silents...but don't try too hard with the fourth, Runaway Princess, too conventional, a bit duff. The other three, however, are simply sensational and are only now getting some international recognition at specialist screenings and festivals such as Pordenone. British silent film has had an awful reputation that it didn't deserve, and simply didn't reflect how good some of it could be, and the three Asquiths are at the forefront of the movement to get the british film industry of the 20's re-evaluated as one deserving of respect, and the realisation that Hitchcock did not learn his trade in a vacuum... I think the BFI are keen to release the three as a dvd set, but that may be a few years away...
    Thanks Penfold.



    Really intersted in seeing the underground film.



    Let us know if it goes DVD...

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    The correct phrase I believe is 'MIND THE DOORS!' Sorry to be so pedantic, but there was a bloke whop called himself Mind The Gap on the BHF forum, a right twat by all accounts, and he hated me ever since I pointed out (quite innocently) that his name was a misquote from the aforementioned DEATH LINE. So do excuse my brief shudder there...

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    No news of a BFI box set of the three Asquith films mentioned I suppose?



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