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    But the film certainly got acknowledged when the final real Mini came off the Longbridge production line on the 4th October 2000. Even if the TV news reporters had no idea about the significance of the music being played: -



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDd0iUMRW_E

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    The original cars in the movie were 1960's bodyshells with the door hinges mounted on the exterior of the door skin and A panels.These shells have only recently become available again from British Motor Heritage and are expensive.There was no way for Rover to produce cars with this bodyshell in 1993.The 1993 Italian Job mini special editions were the current production bodyshells with interior hinges and modern front grille which is why they don't look the same as the movie cars,The IJ special edition was a 1275cc Mini Sprite with added decals .They were available in red,white and blue as per the cars in the film but the British Racing Green car was added because of the popularity of the traditional motor sport colour among Mini nuts.May also have been offered because it's one of the colours on the Italian flag?

    It was next best thing if you couldn't afford a proper Cooper and after all any Mini is better than no Mini.

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    Although British leyland stopped building Coopers after 1971, Innocenti if Italy carried on until sometime in 1975. I recall when working in London die-hards running around in imported Export Innocenti Coopers. I assume that they paid John Cooper seperately for each car as BMC and BL did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woody123
    The original cars in the movie were 1960's bodyshells with the door hinges mounted on the exterior of the door skin and A panels.These shells have only recently become available again from British Motor Heritage and are expensive.There was no way for Rover to produce cars with this bodyshell in 1993.The 1993 Italian Job mini special editions were the current production bodyshells with interior hinges and modern front grille which is why they don't look the same as the movie cars,The IJ special edition was a 1275cc Mini Sprite with added decals .They were available in red,white and blue as per the cars in the film but the British Racing Green car was added because of the popularity of the traditional motor sport colour among Mini nuts.May also have been offered because it's one of the colours on the Italian flag?

    It was next best thing if you couldn't afford a proper Cooper and after all any Mini is better than no Mini.


    Don't get me wrong I'm really not knocking them as they were a lovely Limited Edition Mini and I really liked the seats.



    But over the years they've been much criticized by some who claim those who came up with the trim colours and fixings couldn't have watched the film at all.



    Plus you still can't buy a complete original type MK1, MK2 or MK3 shell from British Heritage. I guess you could pay to have one created by a company called Mini Machine (or M Machine after BMW sent the threats), but it would cost a pretty penny alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Automotivehistorian
    Although British leyland stopped building Coopers after 1971, Innocenti if Italy carried on until sometime in 1975. I recall when working in London die-hards running around in imported Export Innocenti Coopers. I assume that they paid John Cooper seperately for each car as BMC and BL did.


    Possibly and the Mini Cooper was also built in Spain at around the same time by AUTHI (I can't remember what that stands for though, but it was another overseas British Leyland plant).



    Mind you I've heard that John Cooper told the British Leyland boss Donald Stokes that he could keep the royalty payments, but Stokes had no rapport with John Cooper, he didn't think motor racing helped sell cars and he'd already closed down the famous Works department at Abingdon in 1970 and the Mini Cooper S was thus made redundant and then axed anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taffy1967
    Don't get me wrong I'm really not knocking them as they were a lovely Limited Edition Mini and I really liked the seats.



    But over the years they've been much criticized by some who claim those who came up with the trim colours and fixings couldn't have watched the film at all.



    Plus you still can't buy a complete original type MK1, MK2 or MK3 shell from British Heritage. I guess you could pay to have one created by a company called Mini Machine (or M Machine after BMW sent the threats), but it would cost a pretty penny alright.
    Hiya,wasn't having a go,just adding a bit of info as to the antecedents of The Italian Job special edition.At the time several special editions were marketed by Rover which were basically tarted up versions of basic minis.

    I agree that to have a replica built would cost megabucks.Of course you could always buy a shell and transfer the mechanicals from a donor with ropey bodywork but good mechanicals.The bodywork is the most difficult and expensive part of a mini to repair,mechanics are pretty basic.

    I sadly had to give up my Mini due to a problem with my knee.I could get into it easily enough,but getting out was a different matter.Miss it like mad.

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    Sad to hear you had to give up Mini driving, but the good news is the Mini Coopers from the film have been resurrected or cloned right down to their original number-plates: -



    The Italian Job 1969 film starring Michael Ca



    I believe they used basic model shells and restored and built them up from those. The number-plates were bought via a big car auction a few years back and each one cost a small fortune: -



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4636460.stm




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    Autom�viles de Turismo Hispano Ingleses S.A. was founded on 12th November 1967

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariocki
    According to this site they were all destroyed: The Restoration Job

    Whereas according to this site at least some of them suvived:

    The Italian Job



    Take your pick!
    I wonder which one is correct?

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    The former probably, as if anything had survived then the producer or writer said he'd have kept at least one.



    But having the 3 newly created replicas which also wear the correct number plates is almost just as good anyway.

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    The original and best version of this classic film was on again on Monday evening. I moaned again and then sat down to watch it and once again thoroughly enjoyed it.
    I have a few questions about the film and having been unable to find answers on the net, I thought that I might seek answers from the real experts, your good selves......
    1, Michael Caines brother, Stanley, plays the part of Coco. Has he had any subsequent parts or has he left the business, if so what happened to him ?
    2, The late Mike Dickin, ex Radio presenter, was one of the stunt drivers, does he appear in shot at any time ?
    3, Frank Kelly (Father Jack) has an uncreditted part as a prisoner, can he be easily spotted as he would only be about 20 at the time.
    Thats it, good luck and thanks for taking the time to read this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul kersey View Post
    1, Michael Caines brother, Stanley, plays the part of Coco.
    Who, the chef who lost his arm in a car accident?
    Michael Caines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul kersey View Post
    3, Frank Kelly (Father Jack) has an uncreditted part as a prisoner, can he be easily spotted as he would only be about 20 at the time.
    Thats it, good luck and thanks for taking the time to read this thread.
    Frank Kelly plays a prison officer who escorts Charlie Croker on his release. His one line is "Keep your voice down Croker, you're not out yet"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Crook View Post
    Who, the chef who lost his arm in a car accident?
    Michael Caines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Whoops, my apostrophe fell off the page ! I meant Michael Caine's brother, Stanley........... sorry!!!!!!!!!

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    mike dickin had a lot to do with the car business but i think he was more a motoring journalist .
    i think it could be an urban myth that he drove in the italian job

    i could be wrong though !

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainhaddock View Post
    mike dickin had a lot to do with the car business but i think he was more a motoring journalist .
    i think it could be an urban myth that he drove in the italian job

    i could be wrong though !
    Well to be honest, I always doubted it. However I well remember him claiming it to be true back in the days when Talksport was worth listening to. RIP Mike, you are sorely missed.

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    as for father jack being in it someone pointed out to me that they do interior prison shots in a prison in ireland in some movies
    theres certainly a lot of interior prison shots in IJ so i wonder if thats the case with that ?

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    I tried to watch the newer version. Too smug. Couldn't get past the first fifteen minutes or so. And normally anything with Donald Sutherland is ok in my book.

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    i seen the remake once
    thats one times too many
    and never again

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