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    Quote Originally Posted by EHV_Emmetts
    I didn't mind old Parky receiving a 'gong' - but Wogan?? I thought he was a citizen of the Irish Republic and therefore not permitted to receive a knighthood.

    Hasn't Ross just got an O.B.E. ?
    Yes, unbelievably he has, so it will only be a matter of time before the Big One.

    Parkinson was OK, but how could they consider Honoring him, and overlooking Richard Todd? it would have been so fitting for him to have got it when he reached 90.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EHV_Emmetts

    That Jagger bloke received a knighthood a while ago - bearing in mind he has a criminal record.
    Oh yes, that long haired lout





    xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainWaggett
    Wogan was awarded an honorary knighthood in the Queen's Birthday Honours in 2005. After becoming a British citizen that year, the knighthood was made substantive on 11 October, 2005, allowing him to use the style "Sir".



    Only since 2005.

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    I know Barbara has her fans on this site, so I may well be in the minority on this, but whilst watching the Eastenders live edition I wondered how she has managed to get away with it all these years. In the Carry Ons all she seemed to contribute was a silly laugh and a flash of boob, and she appears to snarl her way through Eastenders. Others no doubt will have their own opinion on the actor/actress (covering my options, Ray!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joenoir
    I know Barbara has her fans on this site, so I may well be in the minority on this, but whilst watching the Eastenders live edition I wondered how she has managed to get away with it all these years. In the Carry Ons all she seemed to contribute was a silly laugh and a flash of boob, and she appears to snarl her way through Eastenders. Others no doubt will have their own opinion on the actor/actress (covering my options, Ray!)


    That's not a completely unfair assessment Joenoir. Personally, I like her in the "Carry On" films, although I would hardly describe her as a great actress. For me she was actually better in "A Study In Terror" and "Death Trap", the latter directed by the great John Moxey. Barbara only had a small role in that but I thought she was rather good.



    As for "Eastenders", I personally can't bear the programme. I rate it way down with the awful reality TV shows. So in fairness to Barbara, it is probablly the scripts that let her down rather than just her acting. It's the same for Samantha Janus and Rudolph Walker. Their talents are wasted on what I think is without doubt the worst soap.



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    I am a great fan of the Carry On films and admire the work of Barbara Windsor. Lets not forget she received her MBE in 2000 which was well deserved but I agree that a Damehood is perhaps going a little too far!



    I think it sad that so many of her Carry On colleagues were overlooked when it came to Honours, in particular the late Joan Sims (a far greater actress with more credits to her name).

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    I can usually take or leave Ms Windsor,and find most of her

    work (ie Carry On's) to be very shallow,BUT in fairness she

    was doing what the script asked of her. The revelation for

    me was her two short scenes in my favourite film,Bill Douglas'

    'Comrades' (recently released on DVD for the first time)which

    details the story of the Tolpuddle Martyrs.

    As the wife of a local shopkeeper,her acting is very good,as

    she is by turns baffled and horrified,at the request of George

    Loveless (superbly portrayed by Robin Soans) to make up a

    'banner' featuring a skeleton, to represent the union or 'friendly

    society' being formed by the Tolpuddle men. Fair credit to the

    lady for her sensitive acting in these scenes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joenoir
    IIn the Carry Ons all she seemed to contribute was a silly laugh and a flash of boob
    I think that's a bit unfair. You could reduce any single member of the Carry On team's contribution to a dismissive one line summary - it sort of misses the point. They all had their fixed persona, and had to play off each other's characters. Windsor's was no more or less simple than the others. I think, within the context of the Carry Ons, she was as brilliant as all of them. Outside the Carry Ons, there may be a different argument, but in that environment, when it wasn't Windsor, it wasn't as funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainWaggett
    If one believes in the honours system, why isn't comedy and light entertainment (though her work on Eastenders has confirmed she's an excellent straight actress) quite as deserving as classical theatre? I bet Babs has brought pleasure to more people than many who have been honoured for services to the arts. Oo-er!
    I agree. She isn't a favourite of mine but she has been in the public eye entertaining people for about fifty years.



    Ray - the problem is that when people like Richard Todd aren't working, the public, and indeed honours system, forget who they are. A lot of it must be down to public nominations. Norman Newell was honoured not too long before he died, and he hadn't worked in years. I think I remember reading at the time that one of his friends had sent in a nomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowdon
    I think that's a bit unfair. You could reduce any single member of the Carry On team's contribution to a dismissive one line summary - it sort of misses the point. They all had their fixed persona, and had to play off each other's characters. Windsor's was no more or less simple than the others. I think, within the context of the Carry Ons, she was as brilliant as all of them. Outside the Carry Ons, there may be a different argument, but in that environment, when it wasn't Windsor, it wasn't as funny.
    As I said it is only my opinion, I don't expect you or anyone else to agree with it. I quite like Babs as a personality, but my opinion was based on having seen her recently in some of the Carry Ons and thinking that she didn't contribute as much as the other actors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joenoir
    As I said it is only my opinion, I don't expect you or anyone else to agree with it. I quite like Babs as a personality, but my opinion was based on having seen her recently in some of the Carry Ons and thinking that she didn't contribute as much as the other actors.
    Fair enough. I wasn't disagreeing, so much as ... em ... not agreeing, if you know what I mean.

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    babs was perfect for those films i myself have worked in pinewood studios many years ago and got to meet peter rogers and gerald thomas while working in the mail room there

    happy times

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    Anyone who has survived Sid James and East Enders deserves a medal. I wish they would delete references to the British Empire it has the feel of those cheesy Ruritania located movies. That said, I would think some public recognition would be fitting as there is some longevity in the practising of her art. To last this long does require considerable talent.

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    I agree Bernardo. I'd be very proud to be recognised in such a way by my country.

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    But surely she would be at the back of a very long queue?!

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    Barbara Windsor given freedom of the City of London

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10866207

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy_Lea

    Barbara Windsor given freedom of the City of London

    http://www.bbc.co.uk...london-10866207
    You beat me to it, Timmy_Lea.............just saw it in the News on BBC1.





    Congratulations, Barbara.

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    One of my favourite pics of the lovely Barbara Windsor ........

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    I struggle to understand why entertainers that become popular and earn millions deserve KBE/DBEs.

    However I do think Joanna Lumley was overlooked this year for her magnificent ghurka campaign.

    But Barbara Windsor who ate the scenery throughout EastEnders? Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandy Forsdyke View Post
    I struggle to understand why entertainers that become popular and earn millions deserve KBE/DBEs.

    However I do think Joanna Lumley was overlooked this year for her magnificent ghurka campaign.

    But Barbara Windsor who ate the scenery throughout EastEnders? Nope.
    Check why they get their KBE/DBEs. It is rarely just for their work on stage or screen. It is usually more because of other charitable work they do

    Steve

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