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    This film was on TV a few months ago and was followed by a documentary featuring the 16mm home movies and photography by Sellers himself. Can't remember which channel, must have been a freeview one.

    Anyway, Rush is brilliant as Sellers and the film is very well done considering the scope it covers. Sellers was indeed a troubled man, the film does touch on his desire to be a serious romantic lead, I think that led to his concern about remaining slim as he was naturally well padded as seen in his very early films. I guess his fondness for cocaine and slimming pills (amphetemines?) would not have helped his heart condition. He seemed to regard his success as a comedy actor as a compromise, he really wanted to be James Bond and got his chance in Casino Royale but even then he couldn't escape his "funny" persona no matter how hard he tried.

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    Peter Sellers wanted to be J.Bond ?.....He realy was scyzophrenic, wasn't he ?

    Anyway, I just love the scene in -Life and... when he welcomes S.Loren with responding: "...like in a backery, early in the morning."

    M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonfleet
    Peter Sellers wanted to be J.Bond ?.....He realy was scyzophrenic, wasn't he ?

    M.
    He wanted to 'play' James Bond or a similar character, but his comic persona was so strong that producers never gave him the chance to play a 'real' hero.



    It is more likely that Sellers suffered from bi-polar disorder, not schizophrenia.

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    No offence to P.Sellers, wherever you are, I love you, especially in "The Party".

    M.

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    No offence to P.Sellers, wherever you are I love you, especialy in "The Party"

    M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Challinor
    To The Screen at Reigate this afternoon to see The Life and Death of Peter Sellers (2004) ....any views on this film?

    ['Bit dark in 'ere, innit?]
    I picked this film up brand new on DVD a few months ago for 50 pence. If accurate it was an enlightening film, and my opinion of Sellers changed after watching it. I realise that many creative people can be neurotic, selfish, egotistical, insensitive, insecure, cruel and self-indulgent to the extreme and I'd rather not know about there failings as human beings, otherwise you start to think less of the work they did and some of their films you once enjoyed now leave a nasty taste in the mouth! As a film in its own right I thought it was very well done.

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    Of course the main thing is what he gave on screen, but , for me when I like an actor, i'm interessed more or less by his real life....

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    I think it was difficult to see who Sellers really was, perhaps he didn't know himself, he always hid behind a personna practically his whole life whether on screen or not. I always remember his appearance on Parkinson in the mid 70s. He must have just returned from holiday with his friend Princess Margaret because he conducted the whole interview in an affected upper class English accent, I think people thought he really spoke like that, Parky certainly did but it was another one of his acts, he just couldn't be himself or reveal the real Peter Sellers, I think he treated life as a performance, especially chat shows!!

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    It isnt really a British film as the cast members were from different countries,i'm not sure where the director is from,but Peter was a British actor and comedian so i thought it would be appropiate to put it in this section.





    I think all the cast were excellent at playing the roles they had in this film,and the sotry of Peter's life was very well put together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissH



    I think all the cast were excellent at playing the roles they had in this film,and the story of Peter's life was very well put together.
    Yeah the story was very well put together although there is a bad sequence in the film where they premiere the film Revenge of the Pink Panther and then show clips of The Pink Panther Strikes Again which was quite funny though,I would have thought the makers would at least get that right.

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    i thought this film was lousy ! a real missed oppertunity .concentrated too much on the tears of a clown aspect .

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    Sellers early career was almost expunged

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    Quote Originally Posted by EHV_Emmetts
    Sellers early career was almost expunged
    i got the feeling that they must have looked at the rushes and thought "oh dear " then edited it down to something vaguely acceptable .quite frankly the scenes where sellers morphed into his mother etc were creepy .if you werent aware of how good sellers was [ anyone under 28 wouldnt have been born when he died ] and wanted to investigate ,watching that movie would put you right off

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    I've got the book on which the film it is based on and frankly, I found it a very difficult read as it jumps around all over the place rather than work forward in a linear fashion.



    It also establishes Sellers as a 'monster' up front before giving you the 'evidence' to support this viewpoint which I found annoying.



    I couldn't finish it - parts of it were good but it wasn't very well structured.



    The film i thought had quite a good middle section but the last 10 years of his life were rushed through in about 5 minutes and pretty incoherent - the film was clearly originally much longer and then cut down by about half in the editing room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m35541
    I've got the book on which the film it is based on and frankly, I found it a very difficult read as it jumps around all over the place rather than work forward in a linear fashion.
    Couldn't agree more. I thought Roger Lewis's book a textbook case of how not to write a biography and symptomatic of an author who felt far superior to his subject. I do like this movie a lot, though, and think it gets close to what Sellers was like as a person. The Strangelove section is absolutely masterly - capturing the genius of the creative process and ending with that incredibly funny/sad scene with his mum in the car as she drives home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissH
    It isnt really a British film as the cast members were from different countries,i'm not sure where the director is from,but Peter was a British actor and comedian so i thought it would be appropiate to put it in this section.





    I think all the cast were excellent at playing the roles they had in this film,and the sotry of Peter's life was very well put together.
    Great Goeffrey Rush is australian, so a british descendant, no ?..

    M.

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    Absolutely agree about the Roger Lewis book typical academic superiority complex. Tremendously over-long and leaves you with very little, much like the film.

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    I just watched this last night for the first time. Leaving aside my personal bugbear about actors looking too old for the parts (at the beginning, when he's struggling in the family flat), I think overall it worked. I actually liked the less lineal bits - like the dream psychedelia bits and Sellers-as-his-Mum/wife/Dad/director to show us how his self-centredness re-interpreted everything that was said in a pro-Sellers light ... but afterward I had to watch bits of interviews and so on to remind me that he was totally charming and witty and smart and articulate. This film may well have been pretty accurate about his stunted personal development and unthinking cruelty and self-obsessed fantasy, but gave us little to balance that.

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    I've come a bit late to this thread but I hated the idea and loved the movie. The performances are much more than high quality impersonations and the structure took a look at a man who's internal life remains a mass of contradiction & mystery without taking a line on what the makers or their audience should conclude about him. A quality piece of work all round.



    I was just struck by how much the physically unlike Geoffrey Rush managed to look like Sellers in this picture;



    Quote Originally Posted by taffy1967

    Seen driven by Peter Sellers bumbling Inspector Clouseau, in the 1964 film 'A Shot In The Dark': -




    Finally, regarding reputations, in the years since Sellars' death the predictable desire of the carrion feeders to drag out all the dirty washing don't seem to have hurt his reputation all that much. Just maybe the viewing public are sophisticated enough to know that the truth probably lies somewhere between the public image and the 'revelations'.



    And that, regardless of all of that, he remains one of the finest comic actors ever.



    Vlad

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