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    Ireland is a really bueatiful place, the scenery in and arround Ireland is great where the Quite man was filmed in Kong in Galway is spectacular too, I live across the road from where Brian Boru is buried although there is only a plaque on the wall saying he is buried on the left side of the Church(Church of Ireland Cathedral) in Armagh, there is so much for people to see here really, comeing from England originally i find life here safe and peaceful.

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    I seem to remember an essay by Leslie Halliwell which accompanied his Film Guide for, I think, the year 1988. His argument was how some of the greatest directors had succumbed to extravagance. He cited three directors as examples, but I can only remember two. Arthur Penn was one, criticised for The Missouri Breaks. David Lean was the other, criticised for the length of Ryan's Daughter, which Halliwell said (if I'm not mistaken) had been cut from its initial running time of four hours. Checking IMDB, et al, the longest version I have found is 206min? Can anybody clarify on the Halliwell essay, or R.D's running time?

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    In his immense biography of David Lean, Kevin Brownlow records the initial reluctance ('I'm not an actress') of Sandy Lean nee Katz to appear, in A PASSAGE TO INDIA, in the non-speaking role of Stella. Brownlow does not mention an apparent earlier appearance in a Lean film. When, in RYAN's DAUGHTER, the newly arrived camp commander (Christopher Jones) unpacks, and his departing predecessor (Gerald Sim) looks at the photograph of Jones's wife and remarks 'Bonny woman', the black and white still we see in close-up seems to be, clearly, of Sandy Katz. - Anthony Baker

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    Earlier appearance? She was a prop not a character in the flesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Baker
    ... Sandy Lean nee Katz ...
    n�e Hotz

    Sandra Hotz



    Steve

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    I noticed that the region 1 DVD of Ryans Daughter is 20 minutes longer than the region 2 version.I have the region 2 and it has been cut from when I saw it at the cinema but I thought I would ask if anyone knows if region 1 is actually longer before buying it again as I heard that the U.S DVD`S are not necessary longer just because the running time is more and I don`t need two the same.

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    Our Region 1 DVD runs for 3 hours 25 minutes.

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    R1 SE America - (Warner Bros Home Entertainment) Rewind Review

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    Commentaries:

    DISC ONE

    *The Film (Part 1 - 107:47 min)

    Audio commentary with Lady Sandra Lean, actress Sarah Miles, Petrine Day Mitchum (Robert Mitchum's daughter), assistant director Michael Stevenson, second unit director Roy Stevens, art director Roy Walker, assistant editor Tony Lawson, location manager Eddie Fowlie, stuntman Vic Armstrong, biographer Stephen M. Silverman, film critic Richard Schickel, and directors John Boorman, and Hugh Hudson (Part 1)

    Trailers:

    -Announcement trailer

    -Theatrical trailer

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    Extras:

    DISC TWO

    *The Film (Part 2 - 98:28 min)

    Audio commentary with Lady Sandra Lean, actress Sarah Miles, Petrine Day Mitchum (Robert Mitchum's daughter), assistant director Michael Stevenson, second unit director Roy Stevens, art director Roy Walker, assistant editor Tony Lawson, location manager Eddie Fowlie, stuntman Vic Armstrong, biographer Stephen M. Silverman, film critic Richard Schickel, and directors John Boorman, and Hugh Hudson (Part 2)

    "The Making of Ryan's Daughter" -documentary (35th Anniversary):

    -Rising Storm (27:46 min)

    -Storm Chaser (20:55 min)

    -The Eye of the Storm (14:11 min)

    "We're the Last of the Traveling Circuses" -vintage featurette (20:02 min)

    "Ryan's Daughter: A Story of Love" -vintage featurette (6:14 min)

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    Subtitles:

    English, Spanish, and French

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    Aspect Ratio:

    2.20:1

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    Picture Format:

    Anamorphic

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    TV System:

    NTSC

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    Soundtrack(s):

    English Dolby Digital 5.1

    French Dolby Digital 5.1

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    Case type:

    2-Disc Keep Case

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    Notes:

    Region 1/2/3/4 encoded. Transferred from restored 65-millimeter picture and audio elements.

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    Buy this disc from CD WOW! (R1), Play USA (R1) and help support Rewind



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    R2 SE Holland - (Warner Bros Home Entertainment)

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    Commentaries:

    DISC ONE

    *The Film (Part 1)

    Audio commentary with Lady Sandra Lean, actress Sarah Miles, Petrine Day Mitchum (Robert Mitchum's daughter), assistant director Michael Stevenson, second unit director Roy Stevens, art director Roy Walker, assistant editor Tony Lawson, location manager Eddie Fowlie, stuntman Vic Armstrong, biographer Stephen M. Silverman, film critic Richard Schickel, and directors John Boorman, and Hugh Hudson (Part 1)

    Trailers:

    -Announcement trailer

    -Theatrical trailer

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    Extras:

    DISC TWO

    *The Film (Part 2 - 98:28 min)

    Audio commentary with Lady Sandra Lean, actress Sarah Miles, Petrine Day Mitchum (Robert Mitchum's daughter), assistant director Michael Stevenson, second unit director Roy Stevens, art director Roy Walker, assistant editor Tony Lawson, location manager Eddie Fowlie, stuntman Vic Armstrong, biographer Stephen M. Silverman, film critic Richard Schickel, and directors John Boorman, and Hugh Hudson (Part 2)

    "The Making of Ryan's Daughter" -documentary (35th Anniversary):

    -Rising Storm (27:46 min)

    -Storm Chaser (20:55 min)

    -The Eye of the Storm (14:11 min)

    "We're the Last of the Traveling Circuses" -vintage featurette (20:02 min)

    "Ryan's Daughter: A Story of Love" -vintage featurette (6:14 min)

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    Subtitles:

    TBC

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    Aspect Ratio:

    2.20:1

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    Picture Format:

    Anamorphic

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    TV System:

    PAL

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    Soundtrack(s):

    English Dolby Digital 5.1

    French Dolby Digital 5.1

    Italian Dolby Digital 5.1

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    Case type:

    2-Disc Keep Case

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    R2 SE United Kingdom - (Warner Bros Home Entertainment)

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    Extras:

    DISC 1

    *The Film (Part 1)

    Audio commentary with Lady Sandra Lean, actress Sarah Miles, Petrine Day Mitchum (Robert Mitchum's daughter), assistant director Michael Stevenson, second unit director Roy Stevens, art director Roy Walker, assistant editor Tony Lawson, location manager Eddie Fowlie, stuntman Vic Armstrong, biographer Stephen M. Silverman, film critic Richard Schickel, and directors John Boorman, and Hugh Hudson (Part 1)

    Trailers:

    - Announcement Trailer (2:15)

    - Theatrical Trailer (2:49)

    DISC 2

    *The Film (Part 2)

    Audio commentary with Lady Sandra Lean, actress Sarah Miles, Petrine Day Mitchum (Robert Mitchum's daughter), assistant director Michael Stevenson, second unit director Roy Stevens, art director Roy Walker, assistant editor Tony Lawson, location manager Eddie Fowlie, stuntman Vic Armstrong, biographer Stephen M. Silverman, film critic Richard Schickel, and directors John Boorman, and Hugh Hudson (Part 2)

    "The Making of Ryan's Daughter" 2006 documentary (Play all 62:56):

    - Ryan's Daughter: Rising Storm (27:48)

    - Ryan's Daughter: Storm Chaser (20:55)

    - Ryan's Daughter: The Eye of the Storm (14:12)

    "We're the Last of the Travelling Circuses" 1970 featurette (20:03)

    "Ryan's Daughter: A Story of Love" 1970 featurette (6:14)

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    Subtitles:

    Croatian, Czech, Danish, English, English HoH, Finnish, German, German HoH, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Serbian, Slovenian, Spanish, Swedish and Turkish

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    Aspect Ratio:

    2.20:1

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    Picture Format:

    Anamorphic

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    TV System:

    PAL

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    Soundtrack(s):

    English Dolby Digital 5.1

    German Dolby Digital 5.1

    Spanish Dolby Digital 5.1

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    Case type:

    2-Disc Keep Case

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    Notes:

    Also region 5 encoded.

    Packaging incorrectly states an aspect ratio of 2.40:1.

    Disc one starts with a skippable anti-piracy ad.

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    OVERALL: Draw



    Only minor language and subtitle differences.

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    CUTS:

    o R1 SE America- Warner Bros Home Entertainment - No cuts, 206:15 min - NTSC (inc. “Overture”, “Intermission”, “Entr'acte”, and “Exit Music").

    o R2 SE Holland- Warner Bros Home Entertainment - No cuts (inc. “Overture”, “Intermission”, “Entr'acte”, and “Exit Music").

    o R2 SE United Kingdom- Warner Bros Home Entertainment - No cuts (198:02 PAL) (inc. “Overture”, “Intermission”, “Entr'acte”, and “Exit Music")

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    Thanks for your help.I think I will stick with the region 2.

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    The only time I know of when "Ryan's Daughter" was cut was when I saw it at a US revival theater in Los Angeles in the '80's. After the titles the film cut straight to Tim O'Leary's meeting with and shooting of the policeman.

    Apart from that I don't think the film has been cut for home video. Certainly not the region 1 and the region 2 would be from the same telecine source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Pickard
    The only time I know of when "Ryan's Daughter" was cut was when I saw it at a US revival theater in Los Angeles in the '80's. After the titles the film cut straight to Tim O'Leary's meeting with and shooting of the policeman.

    Apart from that I don't think the film has been cut for home video. Certainly not the region 1 and the region 2 would be from the same telecine source.
    The first US video release of Ryan's Daughter is quite a bit shorter than the recent DVD. I think the cuts happened here after the roadshow release in 1970 was not the great success it was expected to be (in other words - not another Doctor Zhivago or Lawrence of Arabia). When it was released on showcase in 1971 it was shorter. I may be wrong about that - but I think that was the case.

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    Thanks TimR, that's the first I've heard of it.

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    i agree totaly with what Brian Boru has said here.

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