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    I was wondering if anyone could identify the actor who is my current avatar.



    I also want to try to identify the film the shot is from but i only saw a few minutes of it on German tv channel about three months ago. I have a feeling it was British..definatley some kind of spy film..almost certainly 1960-5...the actor appears to be a leader of some kind of gang ....

    there was a woman working undercover at a crowded bar wearing a blonde wig..when a man and awoman enter then leave she goes into a small room takes off the wig.. shakes down her real hair.. then following instructions from the mystery actor proceeds to follow the couple outside..the action then proceeds to a showdown in a large house. im sorry i know its not much to go on..but any help would be great...

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    Hello Stevedr



    He has a look of Laurence Payne (Sexton Blake) about him, but what puzzles me is where you got your avatar from, would there be any clues there?



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    If it is Laurence Payne, the avatar could be from 'The Midnight Men' which was a tv series in 1965. Have a look at

    Action TV Online - The Midnight Men episode guide



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    He looks a bit like Alan Wheatley.

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    I'll do a bit of digging when I get home from work. There is a chance the still is from one of the German Edgar Wallace movies, and I have a very well illustrated book on the subject published in Germany a few years ago.



    He actually has a slight look of Peter Wyngarde, but I think I'm way off the mark there!

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    name='Freddy']Hello Stevedr



    He has a look of Laurence Payne (Sexton Blake) about him, but what puzzles me is where you got your avatar from, would there be any clues there?



    regards



    Freddy
    Thanks eveybody for all your help on this....

    Hi Freddy..



    I managed to tape just a minute or so on video...i have the sequence where the undercover..blonde barmaid spotting the couple walks through a crowded bar into a backroom...the still is from the sequence..



    also something strange....the blonde who is very like Diana Dors early sixties...is wearing a long length leather skirt...Honor Blackman Avengers style....which makes me think 1964-5 rather than 1960-1...unless it is an actual German film and i dont think it is...this skirt would not be in fashion at the very beginning of the sixties.....



    Incidentally it is definately a film not a tv serial..i recall seeing the end credits...wish i'd taped the damn thing now....i could show other stills from the sequence i have if anyone thinks it would help..but woudnt know how to upload them

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    Maybe you could check the German dialogue in your clip: if it's in synch, the film is German. If it's somewhat out of synch the film must have been made in some other language, probably English.

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    im certain it is English..unfortunately i checked the clip and there doesnt seem to be any audio but the girl passes through a door on the club which says PRIVATE.

    There was also something in the titles at the end which suggested a British film company.

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    Hi Stevedr,



    Thanks for the extra info., looking at Laurance Paynes film list on IMDb he seemed to be doing more tv work than film during that period. Also he would only have been 45 and in pictures of him as Sexton Blake made in the late sixties he looks far younger and facially thinner than the chap in the photo so my original theory methinks is flawed.

    Still would like to know the film, I loved all those b/w East European spy dramas.



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    Laurence Payne



    Alan Wheatley



    I don't think either are your fellow. He is aggravatingly familiar. I'm getting an Avengers vibe...



    Your fellow has one of those deepish voice a bit like Chris Lee...

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    It certainly doesn't seem to be from a German Edgar Wallace film from the checking I've done.

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    Is it just me, or does he bear some resemblance to George Coulouris?



    http://www.coulouris.net/gc_archive/...llage70dpi.jpg



    (Incidentally, has anyone else noticed how much Alan Wheatley looks like Peter Cushing? I watched one of those old Hammer noirs recently, and Wheatley, playing a police inspector, almost seemed to be doing a Cushing impersonation.)

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    Another possibility, if any Coulouris resemblance is coincidental, or just imagination on my part - and seeing as it's from a German TV channel - might be the German actor Wolfgang Preiss.

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    Behind the glasses and moustache perhaps Leonard Sachs?



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    (I know this thread has a serious question associated with it, but I'm enjoying 'the thrill of the chase' probably as much as I'll get from the eventual answer!)

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    Hi everybody i posted the clip at youtube..if it rings any bells..



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    Is it this thing?





    Buddenbrooks (1/2)



    Mehrteiler, Deutschland, 1959



    VPS 00.15

    Montagskino & weitere Spielfime



    Die Highlights im ZDF-Programm















    Der alte, allseits verehrte Konsul Buddenbrook (Werner Hinz), Mitglied der Lübecker Bürgerschaft, und seine vornehme Gemahlin (Lil Dagover), wollen ihre 19-jährige Tochter Tony (Liselotte Pulver) zu einer Vernunftehe mit dem ungeliebten Hamburger Bendix Grünlich (Robert Graf) bewegen, weil sie von seiner Trefflichkeit als Mensch und Kaufmann überzeugt sind. Da ist Thomas (Hansjörg Felmy), der pflichtbewusste Älteste, der nur zu bald in die Fußstapfen des Vaters treten muss, als dieser durch einen Steinwurf während der revolutionären Unruhen im Jahre 1848 tödlich verletzt wird. Der zweite Sohn, Christian (Hanns Lothar), ist das Enfant terrible. Vielseitig begabt, schlägt er ganz aus der althergebrachten Kaufmannsart.



    Auslandsaufenthalte in der Obhut befreundeter Handelshäuser helfen wenig. Nach dem Tod des Vaters zurück-gerufen, ist er seinem Bruder Thomas, dem wagemutigen neuen Chef der Firma, mehr Belastung als Hilfe, bis es eines Tages zum endgültigen Bruch zwischen beiden kommt. Und da ist schließlich, mehr am Rande, das Nesthäkchen der Buddenbrooks, die stille, stets kränkelnde Clara (Gustl Halenke), die später Pastor Tiburtius (Frank Freytag) heiraten und ihm nach Riga folgen wird. Tonys Ehe scheitert. Aber ihre peinliche Scheidung von Bendix Grünlich, der betrügerischen Bankrott machte, wird bald von Thomas' glanzvoller Hochzeit mit der schönen und reichen Kaufmannstochter Gerda Arnoldsen aus Amsterdam (Nadja Tiller) überstrahlt. Es scheint, als ob von nun an das Glück Thomas Buddenbrook und dem ganzen Lübecker Kaufmannshaus hold sei...



    FSK: 12



    Länge: 95 min



    Regie: Alfred Weidenmann

    Buch/Autor: Erika Mann

    Musik: Werner Eisbrenner



    Darsteller:

    Tony - Liselotte Pulver

    Gerda - Nadja Tiller

    Thomas - Hansjörg Felmy

    Christian - Hanns Lothar

    Konsulin - Lil Dagover

    Konsul - Werner Hinz

    Herr Wenzel - Rudolf Platte

    Corle Smolt - Günther Lüders

    - u.a.

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    name='wearysloth']Is it this thing?





    Buddenbrooks (1/2)



    Mehrteiler, Deutschland, 1959



    VPS 00.15

    Montagskino & weitere Spielfime



    Die Highlights im ZDF-Programm











    Der alte, allseits verehrte Konsul Buddenbrook (Werner Hinz), Mitglied der Lübecker Bürgerschaft, und seine vornehme Gemahlin (Lil Dagover), wollen ihre 19-jährige Tochter Tony (Liselotte Pulver) zu einer Vernunftehe mit dem ungeliebten Hamburger Bendix Grünlich (Robert Graf) bewegen, weil sie von seiner Trefflichkeit als Mensch und Kaufmann überzeugt sind. Da ist Thomas (Hansjörg Felmy), der pflichtbewusste Älteste, der nur zu bald in die Fußstapfen des Vaters treten muss, als dieser durch einen Steinwurf während der revolutionären Unruhen im Jahre 1848 tödlich verletzt wird. Der zweite Sohn, Christian (Hanns Lothar), ist das Enfant terrible. Vielseitig begabt, schlägt er ganz aus der althergebrachten Kaufmannsart.



    Auslandsaufenthalte in der Obhut befreundeter Handelshäuser helfen wenig. Nach dem Tod des Vaters zurück-gerufen, ist er seinem Bruder Thomas, dem wagemutigen neuen Chef der Firma, mehr Belastung als Hilfe, bis es eines Tages zum endgültigen Bruch zwischen beiden kommt. Und da ist schließlich, mehr am Rande, das Nesthäkchen der Buddenbrooks, die stille, stets kränkelnde Clara (Gustl Halenke), die später Pastor Tiburtius (Frank Freytag) heiraten und ihm nach Riga folgen wird. Tonys Ehe scheitert. Aber ihre peinliche Scheidung von Bendix Grünlich, der betrügerischen Bankrott machte, wird bald von Thomas' glanzvoller Hochzeit mit der schönen und reichen Kaufmannstochter Gerda Arnoldsen aus Amsterdam (Nadja Tiller) überstrahlt. Es scheint, als ob von nun an das Glück Thomas Buddenbrook und dem ganzen Lübecker Kaufmannshaus hold sei...



    FSK: 12



    Länge: 95 min



    Regie: Alfred Weidenmann

    Buch/Autor: Erika Mann

    Musik: Werner Eisbrenner



    Darsteller:

    Tony - Liselotte Pulver

    Gerda - Nadja Tiller

    Thomas - Hansjörg Felmy

    Christian - Hanns Lothar

    Konsulin - Lil Dagover

    Konsul - Werner Hinz

    Herr Wenzel - Rudolf Platte

    Corle Smolt - Günther Lüders

    - u.a.


    thank you...but ..it doesnt sound like it....see my youtube link above for excerpt ..the film was shown on german channel ZDF roughly about four months ago on just after Saturday midnight to Sunday morning at about 1am british time..they often show old b/w films during this slot...in the past with analogue it was possible to get a simple satelite guide for programmes but ...in any case i came across the film unknowingly while channel hopping..and dont have ceefax on that particular tv so there was no immediate way of finding out the title....that's the measure of the challenge i'm afraid..

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    I'm reckon it's one of those German Edgar Wallace Mysteries as mentioned earlier by Lord Brett. 2DF was showing them in the wee hours of the morning back when

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    It's amazing how this guy with the glasses and phony moustache can conjure up the ghosts of so many familiar actors, almost as though he's a computer-generated composite. There's even a touch of J. Carroll Naish about him ...



    Watching the YouTube clip, he looks younger than Coulouris, and I can also see the Leonard Sachs resemblance someone else pointed out.



    And there's still that other suspect - Wolfgang Preiss.



    http://www.nbj.co.jp/newline/dvd/dvd.../profile_4.jpg



    He seemed to rival Anton Diffring for "record number of appearances in German officer's uniform" - I particularly remember him from THE LONGEST DAY. He always seemed to me a bit like a kind of German James Mason. (And if memory serves, he was the old Nazi who got pushed off a huge dam by, I think, Walter Gotell in BOYS FROM BRAZIL.)



    More to the point, he did appear in some Edgar Wallaces, including the German-made (but London-set) DER HENKER VON LONDON (1963), aka THE MAD EXECUTIONERS, in which he played a character called "Inspector Morel Smith". So far as I can make out from some German websites, this got at least one late-night showing on ZDF last year. But maybe it's just the weird ability of that avatar to evoke so many familiar faces ...

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