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    Goldfinger? Dr No? Or Casino Royale?

    As the quintessential Bond film is rereleased, we want to know which 007 movie leaves you most shaken and stirred

    NigeI Kendall



    For many people Goldfinger, which is rereleased tomorrow, is the quintessential Bond film, the one that established a formula that is still going strong 43 years later. The third of the Sean Connery Bond films, this was the first to feature a pretitle sequence irrelevant to the plot of the main film; the first to have a real theme song belted out over the opening credits; the first to feature Q by name, and the first with the gadget-packed Aston Martin DB5, still the most famous film car of them all.



    With its snappy script, sight-gags and one-liners, Goldfinger was the first Bond to go blockbuster, and yet if you scratch the surface, you find it�s not a �typical� Bond film at all.



    Made at a time when the producers Albert R. Broccoli and Harry Saltzman still didn�t really know if they had a lasting success on their hands, Goldfinger takes the notion of the infallible secret agent, established in Dr No and From Russia with Love, and plays it completely against type.



    This is the dirty secret at the heart of Goldfinger: JAMES BOND IS COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT THROUGHOUT. Don�t believe me? Consider, if you will, the bare bones of the plot.



    In Miami, Bond is ordered to observe the antics of Auric Goldfinger (Gert Frobe). Instead, he lets his indiscipline get the better of him and interferes, which costs a young woman, Jill Masterson, her life.



    Hauled over the coals by M, whose intervention with the Miami Beach Police prevents Bond from being arrested and jailed, 007 then embarks on a short game of cat-and-mouse with Goldfinger. This ends when Bond gets Masterson�s sister killed by a maniac with a flying hat, and is easily captured and forced to beg for his life as a laser threatens to separate him from his manhood. �Do you expect me to talk?� he asks, hopefully. �No, Mr Bond, I expect you to die,� comes the immortal reply.



    So, by the halfway point of the film, Bond�s interfering, aimless ways have resulted in the premature death of two sisters and a humiliating capture by an overweight buffoon.



    But what of the car, the great Aston Martin, fitted with oil-slicks, a bullet-proof screen, circular saws, machine guns and an ejector seat? What of it? After a brief chase in which Bond is prevented from making an escape by an arthritic pensioner with a machine-gun, Britain�s top secret agent is dazzled by oncoming headlights and crashes his world-beating gadget into a brick wall. How pathetic is that?



    Worse is to come. Captured, beaten and humiliated, what does our hero do next? Perform a heroic escape? Alert the outside world to the dangers of Goldfinger�s evil plan? Not a bit of it. When he�s not sipping Mint Juleps on the balcony of Goldfinger�s Kentucky ranch, he�s slipping notes into the pocket of a gangster who � along with the note � then gets flattened in a car crusher. So comfortable does Bond appear in captivity that the CIA minders (it is by now obvious that our moronic hero cannot achieve anything alone) decide not to intervene and leave him to enjoy his cocktails.



    And so it goes on. Bond never escapes, and the film�s climax finds him, still a prisoner, helplessly trying to disarm a nuclear device. It takes the intervention of a kindly CIA man to show him the off switch. In the course of the film, Bond�s only moment of efficiency comes from killing his nemesis, right at the end.



    It�s a miracle that Britain�s bumbling saviour made it that far at all, since Oddjob, the smiling villain with the evil hat brim, has previously come close to making mincemeat of him. One can only ascribe Bond�s continued nonchalance to the fact that he�s permanently drunk, snorting back the brandies in London, hitting the Juleps in Kentucky and enjoying �liquor for three� on Goldfinger�s private jet. When Q shows him the Aston Martin�s tracking system, Bond is delighted: �Allow a man to stop off for a quick one en route,� he exclaims. What�s really astonishing about Goldfinger is Bond�s ability to hold a Walther PPK straight with two litres of spirits permanently coursing through his system.

    As the quintessential Bond film is rereleased, we want to know which 007 movie leaves you most shaken and stirred

    NigeI Kendall



    For many people Goldfinger, which is rereleased tomorrow, is the quintessential Bond film, the one that established a formula that is still going strong 43 years later. The third of the Sean Connery Bond films, this was the first to feature a pretitle sequence irrelevant to the plot of the main film; the first to have a real theme song belted out over the opening credits; the first to feature Q by name, and the first with the gadget-packed Aston Martin DB5, still the most famous film car of them all.



    With its snappy script, sight-gags and one-liners, Goldfinger was the first Bond to go blockbuster, and yet if you scratch the surface, you find it�s not a �typical� Bond film at all.



    Made at a time when the producers Albert R. Broccoli and Harry Saltzman still didn�t really know if they had a lasting success on their hands, Goldfinger takes the notion of the infallible secret agent, established in Dr No and From Russia with Love, and plays it completely against type.



    This is the dirty secret at the heart of Goldfinger: JAMES BOND IS COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT THROUGHOUT. Don�t believe me? Consider, if you will, the bare bones of the plot.



    In Miami, Bond is ordered to observe the antics of Auric Goldfinger (Gert Frobe). Instead, he lets his indiscipline get the better of him and interferes, which costs a young woman, Jill Masterson, her life.



    Hauled over the coals by M, whose intervention with the Miami Beach Police prevents Bond from being arrested and jailed, 007 then embarks on a short game of cat-and-mouse with Goldfinger. This ends when Bond gets Masterson�s sister killed by a maniac with a flying hat, and is easily captured and forced to beg for his life as a laser threatens to separate him from his manhood. �Do you expect me to talk?� he asks, hopefully. �No, Mr Bond, I expect you to die,� comes the immortal reply.



    So, by the halfway point of the film, Bond�s interfering, aimless ways have resulted in the premature death of two sisters and a humiliating capture by an overweight buffoon.



    But what of the car, the great Aston Martin, fitted with oil-slicks, a bullet-proof screen, circular saws, machine guns and an ejector seat? What of it? After a brief chase in which Bond is prevented from making an escape by an arthritic pensioner with a machine-gun, Britain�s top secret agent is dazzled by oncoming headlights and crashes his world-beating gadget into a brick wall. How pathetic is that?



    Worse is to come. Captured, beaten and humiliated, what does our hero do next? Perform a heroic escape? Alert the outside world to the dangers of Goldfinger�s evil plan? Not a bit of it. When he�s not sipping Mint Juleps on the balcony of Goldfinger�s Kentucky ranch, he�s slipping notes into the pocket of a gangster who � along with the note � then gets flattened in a car crusher. So comfortable does Bond appear in captivity that the CIA minders (it is by now obvious that our moronic hero cannot achieve anything alone) decide not to intervene and leave him to enjoy his cocktails.



    And so it goes on. Bond never escapes, and the film�s climax finds him, still a prisoner, helplessly trying to disarm a nuclear device. It takes the intervention of a kindly CIA man to show him the off switch. In the course of the film, Bond�s only moment of efficiency comes from killing his nemesis, right at the end.



    It�s a miracle that Britain�s bumbling saviour made it that far at all, since Oddjob, the smiling villain with the evil hat brim, has previously come close to making mincemeat of him. One can only ascribe Bond�s continued nonchalance to the fact that he�s permanently drunk, snorting back the brandies in London, hitting the Juleps in Kentucky and enjoying �liquor for three� on Goldfinger�s private jet. When Q shows him the Aston Martin�s tracking system, Bond is delighted: �Allow a man to stop off for a quick one en route,� he exclaims. What�s really astonishing about Goldfinger is Bond�s ability to hold a Walther PPK straight with two litres of spirits permanently coursing through his system.

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    It has to be Goldfinger for me, I just think its the best of the Bond Films. I was a little dissapointed in the latest film Casino Royale and found Daniel Craig a little lacking as 007. Sir Sean still remains the best 007 to appear on the silver screen IMHO.

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    Doesn't Daniel Craig get conned out of all that money he won at cards as well as ending up in a wheelchair after his bollocks endure a severe whipping with a knoted rope? Ouch! Incompetence on a grander scale than in Goldfinger well my favourite is Goldfinger followed by You Only Live Twice. I enjoyed Roger's outings as Bond in the same way as I enjoy Carry On Films, Carry on Bond is how I would describe Roger's innings, fun all the same but Roger was totally lacking in the cruel ruthless slant that Connery imbued in the character. Favourite Moore film is Spy Who Loved Me which features a brief glimpse of Bond who never was, actor Michael Billington.

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    Cliched I Know but Ursula coming out of the surf..............



    Sean IS Bond, no question! Though I did enjoy 'The World is not enough', great story blah, blah, blah..............oh and Sophie Marceau...

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    I'm a Diamonds are Forever man myself - yes I know - have as many goes at me as you like - I just like the very risque lines, gorgeous girls, brilliant baddies and a good plot, for once.



    But Casino Royale gets my vote from the three on offer.

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    My favourite is probably Live And Let Die (it's probably the most qoutable movie), followed by Goldfinger, You Only Live Twice, OHMSS (great movie with a not-so great Bond) and The World Is Not Enough.



    Casino Royale while good, is a bit lacking in entertainment value and I didn't enjoy it as much as some of the others.

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    name='TheLatePeterCook2']My favourite is probably Live And Let Die (it's probably the most qoutable movie), followed by Goldfinger, You Only Live Twice, OHMSS (great movie with a not-so great Bond) and The World Is Not Enough.



    Casino Royale while good, is a bit lacking in entertainment value and I didn't enjoy it as much as some of the others.


    But you can't beat 'I don't mind as long as the collar and cuffs match'.

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    Diamonds Are Forever is one of my favourites too - besides its great dialogue it has gay hitmen, live cremation, fake moon landing and bikini strangulation and that whole 70s ambience. And 35 years on they still have yet to come up with anything as nasty as that scorpion scene.

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    name='Wolfgang']Diamonds Are Forever is one of my favourites too - besides its great dialogue it has gay hitmen, live cremation, fake moon landing and bikini strangulation and that whole 70s ambience. And 35 years on they still have yet to come up with anything as nasty as that scorpion scene.


    The bomb birthday cake up the jacksy and shish thebad where pretty good too.



    I went to see it with my Dad and I can imagine him desperately not wanting me to ask him: 'Dad why are those two men holding hands?

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    Of the three offered ... Dr No. The original and Connery's 2nd best performance as Bond (his best was in From Russia With Love).



    Of all of them ... On Her Majesty's Secret Service, not just a great Bond film, a great film. Lazenby was excellent as our hero.



    Best Moore film .... For Your Eyes Only ... Rog gets tough.



    Best Brosnan film ... The World Is Not Enough ... a proper spy film.



    Dalton's two ... equal with an excellent Bond in each, but both a trifle dull at times.



    Casino Royale ... Craig is Bond. As good as you're gonna get in this era.



    Bats.

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    Chick flick.

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    name='batman']Of the three offered ... Dr No. The original and Connery's 2nd best performance as Bond (his best was in From Russia With Love).



    Of all of them ... On Her Majesty's Secret Service, not just a great Bond film, a great film. Lazenby was excellent as our hero.



    Best Moore film .... For Your Eyes Only ... Rog gets tough.



    Best Brosnan film ... The World Is Not Enough ... a proper spy film.



    Dalton's two ... equal with an excellent Bond in each, but both a trifle dull at times.



    Casino Royale ... Craig is Bond. As good as you're gonna get in this era.



    Bats.




    Wouldn't mind 10% of the gross of any Bats.................SC is just 100% Bond and, oh those Gals...........Shirley Eaton, Honar, Ursula. Jane 'gorgeous' Seymour, Sophie ( I will marry you -honest!) Marceau, Isabella etc etc..... Love 'em still....'Shaken, not stirred!'.

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    Best Brosnan film ... The World Is Not Enough ... a proper spy film.


    I think his best was his debut, Goldeneye, plenty of good action scenes (spectacular opening) and like the best Bond's it criss-crossed the globe. Also had two of the best Bond girls of recent times.

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    name='DB7']I think his best was his debut, Goldeneye, plenty of good action scenes (spectacular opening) and like the best Bond's it criss-crossed the globe. Also had two of the best Bond girls of recent times.


    Echo that!

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    I went off Brosnan when he put bullet into Sophie Marceau. Could he not arrange for her to go into therapy? It seems harsh to shoot someone just because they are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

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    name='Wolfgang']I went off Brosnan when he put bullet into Sophie Marceau. Could he not arrange for her to go into therapy? It seems harsh to shoot someone just because they are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.


    True mein freund! I'd take care of her.............just don't tell the missus..........

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    name='batman']Of the three offered ... Dr No. The original and Connery's 2nd best performance as Bond (his best was in From Russia With Love).



    Of all of them ... On Her Majesty's Secret Service, not just a great Bond film, a great film. Lazenby was excellent as our hero.



    Best Moore film .... For Your Eyes Only ... Rog gets tough.



    Best Brosnan film ... The World Is Not Enough ... a proper spy film.



    Dalton's two ... equal with an excellent Bond in each, but both a trifle dull at times.



    Casino Royale ... Craig is Bond. As good as you're gonna get in this era.



    Bats.


    Best - From Russia - No competition - has the 'flavour' of the books



    Best Moore - Spy Who- had everything for its era



    Brosnan - Agree with choice



    Dalton - both flicks a bit unsure of themselves



    Worst - View and Golden Gun - View worst cos at Lee was at least a fine villian unlike Walken (uneven performance)

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    I may be in the minority here.but i love the 1967 Casno Royale,its just so cool and funny too,a cult film waiting to be discovered,somebody should film the making of it which is a epic waiting to be made...

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    name='Torquemada']But you can't beat 'I don't mind as long as the collar and cuffs match'.


    How about in You Only Live Twice, Tiger Tanaka says to Bond "In Japan men come first" Bond replies with a raised eyebrow and wry smile " Really...I might just move here!"

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    Or indeed his exchange with Fiona Volpe in Thunderball as she observes her nervous passenger: "Some men just don't like to be driven", to which Bond responds "No...some men just don't like being taken for a ride".

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