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    Quote Originally Posted by theuofc

    I wish Oldman well. Yet, for me, no one will ever replace Alec Guinness as George Smiley. If memory serves, LeCarre liked Guinness' portrayal and had him in mind as he wrote Smiley's People.



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    AG is still the best known of the Smileys but apparently Le Carre later said that he would have been happy for Arthur Lowe to have carried on playing the part (in the BBC TV serials) had Guinness not got involved.

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    For some reason James Mason's Smiley was renamed for the film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAEME

    For some reason James Mason's Smiley was renamed for the film.


    I prefer James to Alec and think the film is underrated one of my favourite 60's films.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAEME

    For some reason James Mason's Smiley was renamed for the film.
    Somebody on this forum said it was because Smiley appeared in a previous movie from a different studio and so controlled the right to the name. The Spy Who Came in from the Cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Sloane

    I prefer James to Alec and think the film is underrated one of my favourite 60's films.


    I agree, superb film from Sidney Lumet

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    Quote Originally Posted by will.15

    Somebody on this forum said it was because Smiley appeared in a previous movie from a different studio and so controlled the right to the name. The Spy Who Came in from the Cold.


    That was me .... and yes, that is the reason. The company that made The Spy Who Came In From The Cold owned the film rights at that time to the character name. However, the film rights to the book The Deadly Affair were owned by someone else. The film could only have been made if that company changed the names of the characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batman

    That was me .... and yes, that is the reason. The company that made The Spy Who Came In From The Cold owned the film rights at that time to the character name. However, the film rights to the book The Deadly Affair were owned by someone else. The film could only have been made if that company changed the names of the characters.


    "The Deadly Affair" was the film title. The book was "Call for the Dead".

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    Quote Originally Posted by narabdela


    "The Deadly Affair" was the film title. The book was "Call for the Dead".


    It is indeed. Of course, I should have said ... "the film rights to the book "Call for the Dead", which the film The Deadly Affair was based on, were owned by someone else ...".

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    Anyone agree with me that the lengthy BBC TV version can't be topped, and that they're probably wasting their time ? (As with Brideshead)

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    I think i'll have to watch some of these versions. I'm quite a fan of le carre and am reading Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy again at the moment but the tv versions have eluded me. I imagine Gary Oldman could make a very good Smiley, after all, he is a good actor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomDaws

    Anyone agree with me that the lengthy BBC TV version can't be topped, and that they're probably wasting their time ? (As with Brideshead)
    Good point,Tom - it was a seminal tv production,like Brideshead.

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    Oldman is a good enough actor to do justice to the character, but the TV series is going to take some beating.

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    That's what i'll have to watch then, I presume it's this one?



    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083480/

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    No ... Smiley's People is the sequel. Not quite as good, but well worth making the effort for.



    This is the one you want ...



    link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080297/



    Both are available on DVD.

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    Thanks very much batman.

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    I envy anyone who still has Tinker Tailor to enjoy for the first time.

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    It will be very interesting if Gary Oldman is cast as George Smiley. I can imagine him bringing something completely new to the part: a very different Smiley but a great one. The John Le Carre stories are so good that they can easily cope with multiple re-tellings. But he is only considering the part at the moment and this may be a bit of pre-production hype. My hope is that the backers don't go for box-office casting - Russell Crowe or George Clooney for instance.

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    name='porlock' date='08 June 2010 - 08:36 PM' timestamp='1276025761' post='437460']

    My hope is that the backers don't go for box-office casting - Russell Crowe or George Clooney for instance.


    But that's what that have done with Oldman .... he is hardly anyone's idea of Smiley from a physical point of view, but he is a bankable British star. If they didn't have one eye on the box-office someone like Simon Russell-Beale would have got the part.

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    Benedict Cumberbatch has been cast as Peter Guillam in this (the part Michael Jayston played).



    Also involved along with Gary Oldman are; Ralph Fiennes, Colin Firth, Michael Fassbender and David Thewlis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dremble wedge

    Benedict Cumberbatch has been cast as Peter Guillam in this (the part Michael Jayston played).



    Also involved along with Gary Oldman are; Ralph Fiennes, Colin Firth, Michael Fassbender and David Thewlis.


    It's like the producers have used me as their personal focus group

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