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    Watched and enjoyed this last night and was just curious about where it was shot and set. IMDb states Battersea, and we do indeed see the Power Station. But is it consistently local or (like Potter's Joe) does it have the propensity to wander?



    And which football match was Joe planning on going to? He decides to go for a shag with Julia Foster's Sue instead (what would you have done?) and we see him in bed watching football on the TV (on a Saturday afternoon?!) but the green hoops suggest that's not the match he'd have gone to, unless the colour on the telly is way off! We later see him in the pub and a couple of drinkers are wearing blue-and-white bar scarves.

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    name='asiamiles']Watched and enjoyed this last night and was just curious about where it was shot and set. IMDb states Battersea, and we do indeed see the Power Station. But is it consistently local or (like Potter's Joe) does it have the propensity to wander?


    When the IMDb says "Battersea" that only means that at least one scene was filmed there. It doesn't necessarily mean that all the scenes were filmed there. it's just that Battersea is the only one anyone's submitted as a location, so far



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    name='Steve Crook']When the IMDb says "Battersea" that only means that at least one scene was filmed there.


    Yes, it just means someone saw the Power Station.

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    The footie game could be a QPR game they wear blue & white hoops & aren't too far from Battersea ?

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    name='Nobby Lard']The footie game could be a QPR game they wear blue & white hoops & aren't too far from Battersea ?


    No, the game on TV was surely Celtic. There was never football on TV on Saturday afternoon anyway, so there was really no striving for realism here; I very much doubt anyone making the film made the hoops/QPR connection. The blue and white scarves worn by the pub goers could have belonged to QPR, Chelsea or Milwall fans.



    I'll have a look at the film again later, and see if I can spot anything...maybe I can post some frame grabs as well.

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    I would have thought his football team would have been Chelsea or QPR, given the South West London location, but the strip worn would indeed suggest different.

    I can't say I blame our Mart for spending the afternoon in bed with Julia Foster instead- I would as well, although with Wendy Allnutt waiting at home for me it'd be a tough choice.

    Waited to see this for ages: now I finally have, I can say it's a most enjoyable film, at least on a par with most of the other 65-75 "Britsploitation" fare I enjoy, and very much the counterpart of the similarly titled ALL THE RIGHT NOISES and ALL NEAT IN BLACK STOCKINGS- the other thing in common being that "all" three of them were set "Sarf West" as it were. Cf also UP THE JUNCTION and SITTING TARGET.

    Potter's far more subdued here than in GOODBYE GEMINI, which he must have filmed a few months immediately previous to this: possibly, because he's afraid to plunge in and let himself go lest his RADA-trained accent slip out and his Mockney fall to pieces, he does do a fair bit of mumbling, which is unusual for him. But he still gives it a good shot, and we do latch onto his character Joe as a sympathetic focus. Conversely, Nicky Henson, though more at home in his role, is rather unlikeable: whereas his undead biker in PSYCHOMANIA and his medallion man in FAWLTY TOWERS both had a touch of derring-do charm about them, he comes across in this as rather graceless, and you find yourself hoping he gets his come-uppance.

    If the film has any major faults I'd say that it's over too quickly, without any real time being given to develop the lads' friendship before it all turns sour, Foster's familial relations aren't fully explored, and it ends on a very ambiguous note without any resolution. Then again, as a realist film, that may have been the idea. There's also not enough Robin Askwith in it....but that's just a personal preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiamiles View Post
    No, the game on TV was surely Celtic. There was never football on TV on Saturday afternoon anyway, so there was really no striving for realism here
    I have finally identified this match as the 1969 Scottish Cup Final between Celtic and Rangers, which, incidentally, was Alex Ferguson's last game for the team in blue. It took a long time to figure this out because the commentary is fake ("Wilson has scored!") and the goals are actually in the wrong order.

    In the film, viewers see Celtic's No.7 go round the goalkeeper and score:


    Jimmy Johnstone usually wore 7 but it's not him. He was suspended. This is George Connelly, who was 19 at the time.


    We're led to believe the scorer of Celtic's third goal is the same player who goes to celebrate in front of ecstatic fans:


    In fact, the player with his arms aloft is Bobby Lennox (hopefully you can make out No. 10 on his shorts), but he scored the second! What's happened here is that the action has switched from original film footage, as illustrated in my first capture, to a TV screen showing the same match - the second image. No. 3 is Willie Mathieson and the goalkeeper is Norrie Martin.

    If you have the film, this scene occurs at 27 minutes. All four goals are included in this video.
    Remember, the 2nd goal (around 1.05 - 1.10) follows the 3rd (1.25ish) in All Coppers Are ...:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ai7kp_8cg

    Scottish Cup Final 1969 [Celtic 4 Rangers 0]

    More about the game here:

    1969-04-26: Celtic 4-0 Rangers, Scottish Cup - The Celtic Wiki

    I very much doubt anyone making the film made the hoops/QPR connection. The blue and white scarves worn by the pub goers could have belonged to QPR, Chelsea or Milwall fans.
    More likely to be Queen's Park Rangers as one of the customers says that "Rodney should have passed ...". That can only mean Rodney Marsh, a QPR player at the time (this was filmed in the Summer of 1971). Also having a pint at that table was prolific extra George Hilsdon.
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    Any ideas where This Odeon bowling ally is when he drives round to it you can see a street sign saying "High Street"
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    If ACAB were remade today, it would likely be dubbed 'ACAC' by the 'anything goes' set.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odeon68 View Post
    If ACAB were remade today, it would likely be dubbed 'ACAC' by the 'anything goes' set.......
    That's what we called the film in 1972

    It was never released as ACAB. In the opening credits, the film's title appears as graffiti on a wall and reads 'All Coppers Are Bastards'. But as the word 'Bastards' has been crossed out on the wall, that's the reason why the title is 'All Coppers Are...' So anyone referring to it as ACAB is technically incorrect

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiamiles View Post
    Watched and enjoyed this last night and was just curious about where it was shot and set.
    I've not seen the full length version of this film (yet) but I've just found 2 locations, Patcham Terrace SW8 (now demolished) and driving south down Stewarts Rd SW8.
    Look up Patcham Terrace on youtube for x3 clips

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocRobertPepper View Post
    Any ideas where This Odeon bowling ally is when he drives round to it you can see a street sign saying "High Street"
    The bowling alley was The Odeon in Uxbridge, now demolished replaced by a gym:

    https://goo.gl/maps/tjkcfsqNfcC2

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    I though I read somewhere that it was indeed ACAB - but American release and TV sensibilities caused the loss of the B..

    I went to see an Aussie crime drama with Guy Pearce - The Hard Word - where a family of crooks are in and out of jail, so they plan a massive robbery with a dodgy lawyer and corrupt coppers to set themelves up for life (I think it was nicking the tote from the Melbourne Cup?) and retire. They are supposedly in jail at the time, so alibi built in..

    In the cells they sing this (to the sound of Campdown Races:)
    "What's the colour of a 2 cent piece?
    Copper, copper
    What's the colour of a 2 cent piece?
    Copper, copper, copper, cop..
    All coppers are cu... all coppers are cu...
    What's the colour of a 2 cent piece
    Copper, copper cop..."

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    They are supposedly in jail at the time, so alibi built in..
    A familiar plot - even crops up in the John Wayne western Cahill US Marshall.

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